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Here are the results:

Absolutely clean boot to dos6.22;dos95;himem loaded;univbe5.0
TSR loaded = no noticable difference.

Install Univbe in Indycar setup = HUGE improvement in
framerate.

Question> What is it about the univbe.drv file the indy
installs in the icr2 directory that makes the game fly as
opposed to the 'regular' univbe?

I can mow play the game with digital sound, SVGA, detail
settings as they came with the game and only occasionally get
the track texture dropping out, even with 31 opponents and with
chase views!  BTW all this is on a dx4/120 with 16MB RAM and
et4000/w32p VLB graphics (doombench 1397).

Here's a suggestion for Papyrus> Is it possible to 'bundle'
this univbe driver with Nascar? because if it made the same
differences I have observed with icr2 to Nascar that would be
great!

As far as the game goes, it's superb! I played it for a few
hours last night and the car graphics are great, the 'feel' is
spot on and the car even sounds mean too!

F1GP2 has a lot to live up to in my opinion. I hope it has the
graphics performance of indy2.

Congratulations the the Papyrus team for an excellent product,
I look forward to it appearing in the Shops here in the UK.

Regards
Richard Miles

I lose some detail (horizon and grandstands), but the detail that
remains is sharper and makes it easier to drive than blocky VGA.  You
can feel the tires flexing and squirming as they heat up and grab for
traction diving into the bumpy curves of Michigan at 240 mph (231 mph
lap ave).

David Efflandt/Elgin, IL USA

I have the following configuration:
- AMD DX4-100 Enhanced Plus CPU
- 8 MB RAM
- Diamond Stealth 32 ET4000/W32p 1 MB
- 3D bench : 71.4

And the framerate in 640x480 sucks !!
When I set all the graphical detail levels to auto and the minimum framerate
on 15, I get no detail at all !!! No textures !! No track side objects !! no
horizon !! Nothing !!!
Using Univbe doesn't solve a thing. Anyone with a similar config get better
results.

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Koen van Brero

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With evrything set to off except HORIZON set to auto I get a fantastic
frame rate with similar setup to you (except CIRRUS video).  Number of
opponents set to 20.  Gravis Ultrasound sound card may help since it
does its own mixing (which is what I have and the sound is great).

My machine is:

 486Dx4-100
 16 MB RAM
 ATI GUP Mach32 VLB 2MB
 3D bench 66.6

Using just the UNIVBE.EXE Vesa driver that I have (or the VVESA.COM that
came with my ATI card) I get just what you saw.  I never get to 15 fps.

On the other hand, telling the ICR2 setup utility to install UNIVBE.DRV
made a HUGE difference.  I now get 16 fps with everything turned on
except road texture, grass texture and wall texture.  I would like road
texture, but the skid marks will have to do.  NASCAR was about the same
as ICR2 without the UNIVBE.DRV.  I wish they would upgrade NASCAR with
the same technology.

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Mike Corrigan

Result.. abysmal SVGA graphical performance. Running 8Mb RAM similar

After loading Univbe 5.1a and running the SVGA version again, the
result was nothing short of astonishing. Lots of detail & texture
(everything on) at an *almost* acceptably playable (simulation) frame
rate. Sacrificing some detail or texture would enable sufficient frame
rates for playability on my PC.

I also found that using "Jed's" editor (thanks Jed) to change modes to
REALISTIC resulted in a significant handling change. The screeeching
tyres and pushing dynamics are now largely gone. Setup in the release
version should allow fixing of any remaining understeer.

Regards,

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Its burst speed is 267 MB/sec, but I don't know of any PCs with memory
that can go that fast for a sustained period of time, and moreover there
aren't many graphics boards which can go that fast either.  (And few
cpus are around that can compute fast enough to make the models drive
the graphics boards that fast!)  For example, Sun's traditionally haven't
been quite as fast as SGI's for high-end graphics, but even the Evans
and Sutherland top-end 24-bit grahpics accelerator only just barely hits
the top of the 100 MB/sec SBus in most SPARCstations.

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Brian Wong                              Systems Engineering Group (Servers)

My understanding is that this concept is quite achievable using the
WinG??? component of Windows 95 (it provides a true I/O system (input AND
output)) However the cost of such a system would be VERY high and the
games would have to have code to support it thus being more complex and
requiring higher levels of hardware to run them.....and the cycle
continues!!!

A.B

I use a GRAVIS ANALOG PRO joystick on the GRAVIS game port with no
trouble.  Does the joystick work OK with other games?  I use mine with
NASCAR too and its fine.  I run ULTRAJOY 18 before using the game.  Also
make sure that you only have one game port enabled in your machine (but I
probably don't need to tell you that!)

I HAVE a DX4-100,CIRRUS VIDEO (VLB), 8MEGS,and a GRAVIS+SB16 with
nohassles.

Sorry I can't help,  Jeff.

I can run all grapics turned ON at 18 FPS with the exception with objects
which I used as a test to know when my Frame rate droped.  UniVBE made an
improvment.

My question is this something that can be used into Nascar?  I've been off
the net for a month or so and never even heard of UniVBe before.

Any help?

Gerald

For sure, and this is what we've been waiting for for a long time.

Thrustmaster and Matt, we now await the "Formula T3" with anticipation!

Oh, and don't forget you'd have to incorporate control surfaces feedback
in flight sims too! :) What about "stall - waggle"??? :)

F22-FLCS??? RCS???...

Best,
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