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However, I'm a bit worried about the graphics showing older sports
prototypes and GT1 cars such as the Maclaren F1, and the Mercedes
prototype from some years ago.

I wouldn't bother me buying an early 90's sportscar sim, but I'd have
thought this would kill the sim for the mass market.

Anyone know if they intend to purchase an up-to-date license for this
sim? If they do, there isn't much time to implement tracks, cars etc. for
the proposed Q4 2000 release. I hope they know what they're doing...

- Michael

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Anyway, have there been any great sportscars since? Of course I'm hoping for
as many prototypes as possible (BMW, Audi, Lola, Caddillac et al) but the
GTs racing today are a bore compared (Viper, Porsche 9something, Lister).
Anyways, I don't need Need For Speed with a proper physics engine - I want
racecars! Not boulevard cruisers....:)

But most of all I cross my fingers for a nice car editor:-D

Matt
(still drooling)

Jan.
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And I bet I'm not alone!

Terrifying tought - isn't it!
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I'm sure we will not have to wait too long for the more creative and
industrious amongst us to work things out and come up with a multitude of
goodies.

MS

I heard it on heresay anyway so I was just repeating a rumour I guess.
Still, If all else is true, as stated in another post here, I'd be happy to
be driving stock cars towing caravans <G>

MS

Originally posted by West Racing:
"Hi There
Just to save some confusion later on, the Track and Car editor will not be
in the first release of the game. We plan to do that as an add on later on."

Chris

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Not only is it unlikely that the car and track editor will appear in a later
release or as an add on, (this is just plain good marketing, ain't it? but
it will help them get the game out the door, and people hooked on it, at the
earliest possible time),BUT.....

you are confused as to the nature of the core of the game. The structure of
the game will be "open" in the sense that it won't be locked up in a way to
PREVENT the end user from modifying it. The source code will be just as
closed as any other commercial release. It will be designed so that cars and
tracks "plug in" and  all performance parameters will be user editable,
perhaps with plain text files. This is what would be called an open
structure, unlike, say, F1RS. This is a far cry from open source. It is,
none the less, the way a sim OUGHT to be made from the standpoint of being a
good program and a good tool.  There is no reason whatso ever that N3/NL and
GPL couldn't be just one single sim with plug in add ons. Only marketing.

This is not neccessarily to say that people won't be modifying it right off
the bat, look at what is done with other sims without the express ablility
and permissions of the authors built into it. Official car and track editor
be damned I'll bet it's going to be a damn sight easier to monkey with than,
say, SCGT or GPL are.

Can anyone say CART ? 80's F1 ? 30's F1 ?

I really hope they make a rock solid multiplayer system to not allow
people showing up with 2000 HP homemade cars :) But then again, it
would be interesting with a league with some limitations on engine and
measurments, and then up to the driver to make the car himself.

My only fear is the good old quote "If it's too good to be true, it
probably is"

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From reading the bhmotorsports.com preview it seems the game will
include loads of cars from historics right through to modern cars, and
loads of tracks have already been made. They're just waiting for
licenses to see which ones will be in?

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Graeme Nash

The only  reason every sim dosn't have one is that authors don't want us to
have one. They want to sell us every series seperately.

Even in GPL to write an "aftermarket" series scripter would be no more
difficult to impliment than GPLSeason was.

A season is defined in a plain text file. Simply write a vbs  that takes the
text for each track, inserts it into a new document, and renumbers the
tracks. Then replace the existing tracks document with the newly generated
one.A programing newbie could tackle it as a first project with every
expectation of succeding. With all the tracks currently available I'm
surprised noone has done it already.

I've been figuring on doing it myself if I ever get around to starting a
USAC oval league.

Anyway, the things that the West Bros. say they are going to give us are
great. I look forward to them and sincerly hope they deliver, but the fact
is they arn't doing anything revolutionary, we'll only be getting the user
support that FPS and RPG players have enjoyed for years, including actual
open source code, but the auto sim companies have been denying us.

I personally am looking forward to the "Boulevard cruisers" I like driving
cars that are more stock that super cars.