rec.autos.simulators

I would also say that the old Papyrus game engine couldn't model a
successful *** Rally racing simulator.  Same goes for the Ubisoft game
engine.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Still it's getting rehashed again and again - for more than 3 years
and still counting. For some reason you never posted anything even
remotely as paranoid as you do regularly when it comes to Ubisofts 2
titles...;)

--Tel

That's your opinion, not a fact. GP2 does not even know how to flip a
car and the excessive amount of grip and thus cornering speed is just
ridiculous and far from reality.

Actually the POD engine *can* do banking, unfortunately it's just not
used for the tracks. But so does GP2. Ever tried to create a banking
with the track editor? Watch what the cars do...

Yep. But that can be changed just as easily.

Blue Flag behaviour is poorly done, that's true. Other than that I
don't see any flaws with it. Just sit back and watch a race in tv
mode, it looks pretty life like (whether thats a good thing is another
story).

Again, just an opinion. GP2 may be easier to drive due to higher grip
level - MGPRS on the other hand needs more practice and skill.

Definately not true. There's neither a scenario mode nor ghosts nor
career mode etc... AFAIK not even an effective penalty system. MGPRS2
easily excels GP2 when it comes to gameplay options.

That's just natural when a game runs for years without any real
competition. As to the replay sound in MGPRS I agree that's really a
shame. Not that it bothers me that much though, I usually have replay
disabled anyway due to gamespeed reasons. ;)

--

Tel
                                   http://tel.tsx.org
a.k.a. Holger Bachert              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://bachert.cjb.net

Well I know some people at Papyrus that would say the opposite about my
posts, since I was pretty against Nascar 3 on the T.g.s.n. newsgroup until I
got more information about that title from a great person down there.  I
know N3 is different, at least they made the effort.  Don't ever compare the
Ubi game engine to the old Papyrus game engine.  I just said a fact that the
current Ubisoft game engine can't create a successful Game engine.  I feel
it's true, the same as it couldn't for the old Papy game engine.  But at
least Papyrus creates good software out of that game engine.

Nascar 3 is enhanced in about every aspect of the game.  It's the second
best racing sim on the market after GPL.  Everything is better, sure it's
not the GPL engine, but it's not N2.5.  Sound, gameplay, physics, graphics,
AI, multiplayer   ;-)

You will see ! ;)

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

the horse is very, very dead.  You really could stop *** it anytime.

;-)

Kurt

Hmm... is it worth commenting?  Well, let me put it this way...

"WHIZZZZZZZZZ"

that's the sound of a joke going over your head.  Everyone's criticising
GP3 based on 4 screenshots.  My post was tongue in cheek.  Get it?

Stephen

:>
:> : And can this really be an ingame screenshot?
:>
:> : http://www.racesimcentral.net/
:>
:> The tailpipe is too small.  It is therefore obvious to me, based on this
:> screenshot, that it will be a ***rally simulation.
:>
:> Stephen
:> ;)
:>
:>

-Larry