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: And since you bought the DOS version, you don't have to buy the Windows 95
: version. You'll be able to download a "patch" for that as well.

: Rick Genter
: Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II
: Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

Thanks Rick for posting the above reply (even the stuff I snipped).  You
(you being Papyrus) take quite a bit of flack from some of your more
vocal users here on the net.  (I have to include myself on a number of
occassions.)  Thanks for taking the time to explain what's going on.  I
feel better about having to wait.  I just think that if we could get
this type of response earlier on, we wouldn't be so agitated.  

I will patiently await the release (well as patiently as I can :-)).

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Thanks for finding this message. I was the guy who started the thread
"A patch anytime soon". Genter quickly slammed me for spelling his
name wrong and misquoting him.

Well to Mr. Genter, your right...you didn't say it. But Papyrus did,
so BITE ME!!!

With respect to your earlier post where you said,
"Generating a patch" is not a trivial matter, certainly not as trivial
as people seem to think. The only way we could produce a patch for the
DOS version of IndyCar Racing II without further slipping the Windows
95 and Macintosh versions was to coordinate the fixes into the
schedule, and that means not being able to release the patch until the
Windows 95 and Macintosh versions are released.",
I can't imagine how you can justify your actions with a statement like
this. This is sheer irresponsibility. This reminds me of your first
release of ICR. You knew that the modem play did not work, yet  you
released it anyway. Release and fix later(maybe)...Release and fix
later...Release and fix later. Seems to be a pattern with your group.

By now Genter is probably saying, "what an ***". But he needs to
remember, we've already supported Papyrus by purchasing their
products. It is now their responsibility to support us. Are we here
because of Papyrus or is Papyrus here because of us?

Mike Hatten

Rick, isn't it reasonable for me to assume that if you come up with a yellow
flag bug fix for Win95, the code could be ported over to the DOS version?  

Yup...I bought a *nearly* complete ICR2 for DOS.  Is the Win95 version going
to be complete, or are we going to be having the same conversation in July?

Don't get me wrong, Rick, I love the game...Papyrus has done some wonderful
things for us racing geeks...It's just that these bugs are analogous to having
buttons that don't work on the dashboard of my car, but "they'll work in the
new model, so why don't you buy that one?".  Maybe I'll like the new car, but
I haven't seen it yet, and I already like the car I bought...

And I'm not going to ask you to "BITE ME"... :)

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Meek and obedient you follow the leader
down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel..

       Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

If you are not able to use UniVBE on DOS and your card is supported by
DirectDraw, then yes, you should see a significant frame rate improvement.

Rick Genter
Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II
Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

Yes, but since we are not using Direct3D, the fact that the card is a 3D
card makes no difference to the game.

Rick Genter
Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II
Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

Rick Genter
Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II
Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

(Can I make it any clearer than that?)

Rick ("I've had my rabies shots, have you had yours :-)?") Genter
Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II
Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

SIX PROJECTS?!?  Holy cow, xmas is coming!<g>

I am NOT paranoid.  And why are you always watching me?!?
Eldred Pickett

Randy

Joe

Not at all. DirectDraw and DirectSound are pretty compelling as well. In
fact, many of the first generation 3D cards are not as fast as their
manufacturers would like; we've seen a couple that were 3D *decelerators*
- our engine on a medium Pentium (P-90) would out perform the 3D card.

Rick Genter
Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II
Sierra On-Line

I just *KNEW* he would have a strange sense of humor!

: >Yes, but since we are not using Direct3D, the fact that the card is a 3D
: >card makes no difference to the game.

: Why is this? Doesn't this defeat the main benefit of a Win95 game?

Not totally, there is also the DirectDraw feature for *** development
in Win95.  Depending on the boards' ability and other accelerated
features one should see improvement in Win95 with DirectDraw.

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