rec.autos.simulators

>>> You definitely have a valid point, it is a double edged sword.  I love
>>> rFactor, and I love all the content created for it.

>> Scott, and all,

>> off is because I DO like rFactor a lot, and when I am denied my simrace
>> fix, I get a little cranky.....offline racing can be fun, but after
>> you've experienced racing against you knuckleheads, err, my fellow
>> simracer human types online, the offline races just wind up lacking a
>> certain something. With 9 mods and 20 tracks installed you'd think I
>> could at least find one or two races to join, even if they weren't
>> "first-choice" races, but last night that didn't happen, and it's
>> happened often enough to cause me to post. Anyway, hope to see y'all in
>> an online race sooner, rather than later.

>> Ed
> We run the standard Formula IS cars in our league for this very reason.
> All the mods just seem to start more problems. When we run our practice
> nights on our server we always get ten to 15 cars testing with us.
> So I feel if more league admins would support the ingame cars we would see
> better pickup racing. Our server is up all the time feel free to run some
> laps in it. We race in thursdays with some fun tracks.
> www.panozworldseries.com
> The server is AASCRA Forula 5000

>> I'm bewildered by this line of thinking that having more
>> choice is a bad thing.

> More is often less (in everything in life!), but especially when you
> have a minority interest like sim racing. Divide and conquer, etc. In
> fact the main reason I think GPL originally started to fade was not
> competition (it remains a great sim), it was dilution due to mods and
> track overload.

> Reaching and maintaining critical mass (of decent drivers) now seems very
> hard in multiple sims, classes, mods, and tracks.

>> - if you join a game you don't have the map for, it
>> just downloads it from the server. End of problem.

> The last thing you need on any server is someone who hasn't driven the
> track before. New players are always useful for cannon fodder in an FPS,
> but not in a race.

> > That is the exact reason I quit playing rFactor. I like the game but
> > it's too difficult to keep up with all the different stuff thats out
> > there for rFactor. The offline part of rFactor isn't too good and like
> > Ed said it's very difficult to find an open race to join. I prefer LFS
> > because the developers are keeping a tight lock on things so everyone
> > is using the same tracks and cars so it's very easy to find an online
> > race.
> > Rick

> I completely agree. LFS is showing that the method of tight control on cars
> and tracks seems a very good solution to the problem of excessive online
> dispersion, the main present drawback of rF. I live in Italy, and here in
> Europe LFS is very popular (and as Rick said it is very easy to join
> crowded online races). I still don't fully understand why it seems much
> less considered in America. Do you have any idea?

> Regards

> Socius

>>> - if you join a game you don't have the map for, it
>>> just downloads it from the server. End of problem.

>> The last thing you need on any server is someone who hasn't driven the
>> track before. New players are always useful for cannon fodder in an FPS,
>> but not in a race.

> That may be true but if they have driven the track before but have the
> wrong version, then why not? I think you will always have clueless newbie
> syndrome whether you make it difficult or easy.

> --
> Phil

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