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Replacement pedals for Momo ?

Phil Abe

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Phil Abe » Sun, 24 Nov 2002 08:39:04

Hi all
I really like my momo wheel, but can't believe how crappy the pedals are.
What would be my best option for purchasing better quality pedals that would
work with my wheel ?
Many thanks for any and all help !
Cheers Phil
Wayne Langill

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Wayne Langill » Sun, 24 Nov 2002 08:48:40

Rebuild them, thats what i did with couple sets, lot nicer pedals now. Check
www.corl.ca  I think tere should be pictures there under pedals or hardware,
if not Schooner will put something up for you.  Wayne

Goy Larse

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Goy Larse » Sun, 24 Nov 2002 08:57:54


> Hi all
> I really like my momo wheel, but can't believe how crappy the pedals are.
> What would be my best option for purchasing better quality pedals that would
> work with my wheel ?
> Many thanks for any and all help !
> Cheers Phil

Depends on your budget, if price isn't the most important thing, then
these pedals http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm are hard to
beat for performance and quality

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

Jone Tytlandsvi

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Jone Tytlandsvi » Sun, 24 Nov 2002 08:52:55

If you're willing to spend some money on pedals that works as a separate
controller take a look at these:

http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm
http://www.racesimcentral.com/articles/reviews/redline/redline.shtml
http://www.interactiveracing.com/Pedals/Speed7/
http://www.act-labs.com/race12.htm

They will work with any wheel, but the sim/game would have to support two
controllers.
If you would like to connect other pedals directly to the wheel and use the
combo as one controller, take a look at my site:
http://www.tytlandsvik.no/momo/
This adapter can also be used to power the wheel so you can get the MOMO
pedals back in the box where it belongs :) if you decide to get a high
performance pedal set like one of the above.

Regards
Jone Tytlandsvik

Schoone

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Schoone » Sun, 24 Nov 2002 09:04:36

Check the PC Hardware section of the forums for some pics of work we have
done and also some work of others from the league.  www.corl.ca


> Rebuild them, thats what i did with couple sets, lot nicer pedals now.
Check
> www.corl.ca  I think tere should be pictures there under pedals or
hardware,
> if not Schooner will put something up for you.  Wayne


> > Hi all
> > I really like my momo wheel, but can't believe how crappy the pedals
are.
> > What would be my best option for purchasing better quality pedals that
> would
> > work with my wheel ?
> > Many thanks for any and all help !
> > Cheers Phil

erace

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by erace » Sun, 24 Nov 2002 09:24:16

What don't you like about them, specifically?  If brake feel is the prob,
simply replace the brake pedal spring with a squash ball, and you'll get a
nice, progressive pedal that requires more pressure as you compress it.
It's a nice $3 upgrade, and has the side benefit of making it nearly
impossible to lock up the brakes!  ;)


Mike Beaucham

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Mike Beaucham » Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:06:16

If you're going to rebuild your momo pedals, I'd definately build in a
clutch. It wouldn't be much more effort, and you could always wire it up to
the game port as a whole separate controller. It couldn't hurt.

Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com


> Check the PC Hardware section of the forums for some pics of work we have
> done and also some work of others from the league.  www.corl.ca



> > Rebuild them, thats what i did with couple sets, lot nicer pedals now.
> Check
> > www.corl.ca  I think tere should be pictures there under pedals or
> hardware,
> > if not Schooner will put something up for you.  Wayne


> > > Hi all
> > > I really like my momo wheel, but can't believe how crappy the pedals
> are.
> > > What would be my best option for purchasing better quality pedals that
> > would
> > > work with my wheel ?
> > > Many thanks for any and all help !
> > > Cheers Phil

Phil Abe

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Phil Abe » Sun, 24 Nov 2002 12:19:53

Wow, thanks all for the great info guys!  The Act Labs Performance Pedals
(USB with clutch) look very interesting. It's both affordable and available
here in Australia... Any comments from people using these pedals with the
momo wheel would be greatly appreciated...I really only play the Papy sims.
Thanks again !! Cheers Phil
Brian McLerno

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Brian McLerno » Sun, 24 Nov 2002 13:17:27


I agree.  I made this simple adjustment and the feel was way better.  Took
three sporting-good store stops to find a squash ball in Portland, OR,
though!  :-)
-Brian Mc

Phil Abe

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Phil Abe » Sun, 24 Nov 2002 14:34:44




> > What don't you like about them, specifically?  If brake feel is the
prob,
> > simply replace the brake pedal spring with a squash ball, and you'll get
a
> > nice, progressive pedal that requires more pressure as you compress it.
> > It's a nice $3 upgrade, and has the side benefit of making it nearly
> > impossible to lock up the brakes!  ;)

> I agree.  I made this simple adjustment and the feel was way better.  Took
> three sporting-good store stops to find a squash ball in Portland, OR,
> though!  :-)
> -Brian Mc

Thanks for the tip,  i've taken your advice and fitted a squash ball and it
definitely feels much better. It wasn't just the brake feel that was
bothering me though, i was getting lots of jittering during calibration and
also some spiking while racing...I think this was because the pots were not
seated properly (very poor constuction IMO), so i've secured them in place
with tape and lo and behold all the problems seem to be fixed.
Many thanks !! Phil
Woodrow Stoo

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Woodrow Stoo » Mon, 25 Nov 2002 07:38:14

Can you explain this mod to me in detail?  I attempted to replace the brake
spring with a squash ball, and I could barely get the pedal case to close,
and I couldn't press the brake pedal down at all when I tried it.  Something
FUBAR for sure, can you help?
erace

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by erace » Mon, 25 Nov 2002 07:54:19

Don't install the spring - just the squash ball.  It might be a tight fit,
but that's what you want.   Other than that, don't know.  All squash balls
should have approximately the same amount of 'give' to them...


Ice

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Ice » Mon, 25 Nov 2002 08:29:24


> Can you explain this mod to me in detail?  I attempted to replace the
brake
> spring with a squash ball, and I could barely get the pedal case to close,
> and I couldn't press the brake pedal down at all when I tried it.
Something
> FUBAR for sure, can you help?

There are different types of squashballs (hard, medium, soft), but I think
any ball would do. The squashball fits nicely in the hole where the spring
used to be. Try carefully taping the potmeters to the case, so they don't
fall out when you put it back together. Place the half with ball in it on an
angle, so the pedals hang free (support the case with a box or something,
stuck between the pedals). Close the case with the screws, duh...

When I first put the squashball in, I thought there was something wrong with
it. It seemed way too stiff, I could hardly press the pedal with my hand.
But with my foot I could push the pedal, although not all the way. This is
ok though, because you basically calibrate the pedal in the game controller
panel. I make sure that the 100% mark is reached when I push the pedal
firmly, without overdoing it (thus simulating a power brake situation). Just
give it another go, and see if you like it.

B.t.w, a friend of mine has put a softer squashball in his set, and it feels
better than mine. So there is some room for improvement there as well.

Ice D

erace

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by erace » Mon, 25 Nov 2002 09:23:14

Thanks for backing me up.  Yes, there are several different types of ball.
Mine had 1 dot on it, some have two.  I think two dots may be stiffer?

Anyways, good point about testing the pedal with the foot, instead of the
hand.  I realized that when I put mine in, too...

Jone Tytlandsvi

Replacement pedals for Momo ?

by Jone Tytlandsvi » Mon, 25 Nov 2002 09:33:37


From http://www.worldsquash.org/merchandise/balls.html:

-------------
The speed of balls may be indicated as follows
Super slow   Yellow Dot
Slow            White Dot or Green Dot
Medium        Red Dot
Fast              Blue Dot

3.  Yellow dot balls which are used at World Championships or at similar
standards of play must meet the above specifications but additional
subjective testing will be carried out by the WSF with players of the
identified standard to determine the suitability of the nominated ball for
Championship usage. The slowest speed of balls intended for elite players
and Championship usage may if required be identified by a double yellow dot.
Such balls will be deemed for the purposes of this specification to be
yellow dot squash balls.
-------------

A beginner (squash not simracing) would use a fast ball, as a slow ball
would bounce very poorly. So I guess a fast ball would be hard and a super
slow ball would be soft?

Jone.


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