rec.autos.simulators

Get the "light" version (minus directx) at www.3dgamers.com

Cool thanks for the tip.

MadDAWG

Too bad it gets my TSW2 pedals backwards in split axis...

- Dave Cook

I agree, not brilliant at all, but it was good fun for a bit.

--
Some Call Me Tim

The demo doesn't allow controller customization?  The full game allows you
to program each axis to the game function so that wouldn't be a problem.

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Joe M.

This can't be the simulation mode from the retail game because the physics
are fairly realistic and the higher end cars are challenging to drive with
some file tweaks.  I've done full throttle with the wheel cut to ensure that
the car pivots around the front wheel and not the center.

This game has MUCH better physics than SCGT.  It has been a long awaited
SCGT replacement for me (which is soon to be supplanted by GT 2002 for F1
2002).

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Joe M.

Dave, have you tried holding the brake down in the menu, choosing the brake
and then letting it up (when it tells you to push it)? It's worked for me in
other games.

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Slot

Tweaks & Reviews
www.slottweak.com

Hmmm.  No I didn't try that.  I'll give it a shot!

- Dave

It depends on what view you're using (brilliant... ). I had very poor
sound/rpm sync using the bumpercam, but in-car seems ok.

I finally got to sit down with the demo for a few minutes today.  Still
not sure what to think.  I don't think it is as bad as Doug says.  I
like the graphics, they may not be state of the art but they have a
certain aesthetic character to them that I like.  Kind of like the
Superbike series did.  Car and track selection looks pretty good.  But
the demo physics are very much on the arcadey side, and I couldn't
figure out how to change it.  I turned off all the aids in the menu but
it still felt very arcadey.  BTW the aids turn back on automatically
every time you restart the demo, so it is possible that some of you that
didn't like the feel were driving with aids on and didn't know it.
Anyway I went digging through some of the config files and I was able to
make it a tad more realistic by turning off the low speed grip factor
and the deadzones in the config.cfg file.  Bottom line though is the
steering is ***for a wheel user.  It is both non-linear and speed
sensitive, both of which also affect the force levels.  This would be
tolerable if it was just a matter of changing a few lines in a file, but
the steering response curves are coded into the data for each vehicle,
so you would have to change all of the cars that you planned on driving,
which for most people really means changing all of them.  Not
acceptable.  It's a shame, because this game looks very moddable, and I
am convinced that there is a good physics engine underneath all of it,
but unless or until Razorworks publishes a standardized realistic
physics patch everybody will be tweaking the game a little differently
and there will be no way to compare lap times or trade setups or
anything.  And until they provide an easy way to fix the steering on all
of the cars I am just not interested, at least not in the PC version.
Might want to keep my eyes open for the Xbox version though, that might
be fun - realistic physics are near impossible to deal with when driving
with the thumbs, so maybe TIR will still be fun on consoles.

What do you expect?  Getting whacked in the head by passing tree's and other
debris tends to alter your hearing ability.

-Larry