the next hour just racing DTR off line. I was able to run consistantly in
the top 5 in the super modifies with the AIs set at 80%. So now I'm going to
give online racing a try,and see if it doesn't change my mind about DTR.
Joel Willstein
Joel Willstein
I'm pretty sure it's at least somewhat controller related - I'm no whiz in
GPL but I can control the car in a slide, AND feel when my back end is
coming around. I do this better with FF, but could do it pretty well before
the 1.1 patch too. DTR isn't giving me anywhere near the same feel, with or
without FF, and from reading many of the raves about it it seems I'm in the
minority here. I'd check the newsgroups, see nobody else was saying much
negative, figured I was missing something, fire it up again and still was
missing it. I got like a 17.35 or something in a Late Model at 34 Speedway,
but just never felt the car under me. Weird. Maybe with the default
steering lock, and with wheels like the MS that have over 180 degrees
travel, it is too touchy. I might play around with the MS controls and
adjust the deadzone and all and see if I can get it to feel better. I am
running 3.02, as Don suggests, so am not getting any slowdowns with FF.
Since the full game will be $20, and will offer a lot of adjustments -
hopefully including some FF tweaking - I'll still pick it up. The career
mode sounds delicious. At this point though I'm in the "Huh? I don't get
it" camp - yet I get SBK, GPL, N3, NL, SCGT, etc. - oh well maybe I'll
figure it out eventually :-)
--
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"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" -
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Go #43 and #44!
volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com
> Joel Willstein
Thinking about the above statement, I then immediately wondered why it isn't
a problem in games such as Nascar3/Legends, SCGT, etc -- and the reason I
think is because for the most part you aren't intentionally trying to keep
an opposite-lock on for more than a brief second. In DTR, 1/4 way around a
turn, you have no idea whether your wheels are pointed full-left,
full-right, or somewhere in between. I guess this IS realistic though,
right - in real life they can't see their own wheels, but have to drive by
"feel"? You just have to take a totally different driving approach to it
compared to the other games.
Still fun though, even if I have to use external-cam to drive consistently!!
R. Hashana
I've been using a MSFF wheel with GPL,Nas3,and SCGT. The FF is simply
fantastic in GPL and NAS3. You get quite a lot of feed back as to what the
car is doing. You can feel when the front end gets light or loads up. In
SCGT I had to adjust both settings inorder to get any real feel,but there is
some,and it does add to the overall sensation of driving a sports car. In
DTR the FF is practically nonexistent. This could be from the fact that the
front end gets really light when you start sliding around,but going down the
striaghts doesn't offer you any sensations at all. Hopefully,there will be
some FF adjustment in the sim when it's released.
I've spent several hours this afternoon driving DTR both on and off
line. I found that with the AIs set to 80% I was able to win just about
every race. I tried online racing,but the few races I joined and the few I
watched,were demolition derbies,so I continued racing off line. I increased
the AIs to 90%,and the super Mods started to get real interesting. At 99%
(the highest setting),I never finished better than 5th.
My concern still is that after just a few days of racing DTR if I'm
able to run the super modifies at 90%+ and be competitive,will the sim stand
the test of time and still hold my interest 3-6 months down the line.
Joel Willstein
One of the advantages it has over something like GPL (which I also think is
the dogs whatsits by the way...) is the fact that I feel much more content
to start it up just for a quick 15 minutes or so if I haven't got much time
to spare (although i'm sure many of these 15 minutes will more often than
not turn into 30 mins, then 45, an hour, etc, etc.....). Whereas I am always
reluctant to fire up GPL unless I know I am going to have an hour or so
behind the wheel. Just an observation.. what does anyone else think??
Anyway, suffice to say I think it is superb... I only hope it is released
over here in England.. but something tells me that it won't be and an online
order is going to be quickly on it's way.
Just my 2p worth
Peter Hooper
PS:- I'd appreciate any thoughts on whether the purchase of a FF wheel would
make it even better... bear in mind that I am currently running a rather
under powered system (P233mmx, 64mb RAM, 16mb Voodoo Banshee) so would a FF
wheel have reduce performance at all. Cheers
> I'm pretty sure it's at least somewhat controller related - I'm no whiz in
> GPL but I can control the car in a slide, AND feel when my back end is
> coming around. I do this better with FF, but could do it pretty well
before
> the 1.1 patch too. DTR isn't giving me anywhere near the same feel, with
or
> without FF, and from reading many of the raves about it it seems I'm in
the
> minority here. I'd check the newsgroups, see nobody else was saying much
> negative, figured I was missing something, fire it up again and still was
> missing it. I got like a 17.35 or something in a Late Model at 34
Speedway,
> but just never felt the car under me. Weird. Maybe with the default
> steering lock, and with wheels like the MS that have over 180 degrees
> travel, it is too touchy. I might play around with the MS controls and
> adjust the deadzone and all and see if I can get it to feel better. I am
> running 3.02, as Don suggests, so am not getting any slowdowns with FF.
> Since the full game will be $20, and will offer a lot of adjustments -
> hopefully including some FF tweaking - I'll still pick it up. The career
> mode sounds delicious. At this point though I'm in the "Huh? I don't get
> it" camp - yet I get SBK, GPL, N3, NL, SCGT, etc. - oh well maybe I'll
> figure it out eventually :-)
> --
> Ken's Sig 3.01
> "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" -
> Obi-Wan Kenobi
> Go #43 and #44!
> volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com
> > Well,since my 1st post agreeing with the Philster,I went back and
> spent
> > the next hour just racing DTR off line. I was able to run consistantly
in
> > the top 5 in the super modifies with the AIs set at 80%. So now I'm
going
> to
> > give online racing a try,and see if it doesn't change my mind about DTR.
> > Joel Willstein
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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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November 9, 1999
11:30am
Of late we've been getting quite a few mails regarding the status of the
Australian and European versions of Dirt Track Racing from anxious fans.
Upon imagining the distraught state of these people, I immediately took the
query straight to the top. Here's word from the bossman himself:
".. the contract negotiations are underway with the view to DTR Europe and
DTR Australia / NZ being available towards the end of the year. These
versions will feature racing around Europe or Australia / NZ
respectively...."
Please don't fill my mailbox with flame mail over the matter, it's just one
of those unavoidable matters I'm afraid. We're doing our very best to get
DTR into everyone's hands asap. Until it's arrival, thrash that demo to
pieces.... 8)
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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------
> > > Anyway, suffice to say I think it is superb... I only hope it is
> released
> > over here in England.. but something tells me that it won't be and an
> online
> > order is going to be quickly on it's way.
> In fact, here is the word straight from the horses mouth Ratbags "News"
> page).
> NOTE! Ratbag intend including tracks relevant to the zone of release!
> EXCELLENT!!
l8er
ronny
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The box said "Windows 95 or better", so I installed LINUX!
|\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather,
ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep.
|,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car,
'---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
However the sound IS terrible...that I totally agree with.
Chris