rec.autos.simulators

>JB

>> You're 100% right, Doug -- yes, F1 2001 is actually a steaming piece
>> of $#!+, but even so, I like it every bit as much as my two favorite
>> sims of all time -- Test Drive 6 and Swamp Buggy Racing.  I commend
>> you for exposing me for what I truly am . . . a know-nothing
>> butt-kisser willing to suck up for the sake of a quick freebie.

>> While we're at it, allow me to make your job easier by pointing out
>> yet another example of my shameless butt-kissing antics, further
>> illustrating my overall lack of knowledge and discernment, and further
>> proving that that that sim racing fans are just wasting their time
>> when they read my butt-kissing musings:

>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>> sure you already knew that.  I post mine in long form, but you are
>> apparently gifted with a greater brevity.  Aside from that -- and my
>> obvious butt-kissing tendencies -- we seem to be a lot alike.

>> I will be scheduling my lobotomy tomorrow.

>> Thankfully, that probably won't impact the quality of my reviews . . .

>> >:-[

>> Hmm . . . now that I've been exposed as the butt-kisser that I am, I
>> might as well s***the preview of Rally Trophy that I'm working on.

>> So much for my bid to become the next Randy Magruder of racing sim
>> reviews.

>> :-/

>> -- JB

>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:29:37 +0100, "Douglas Ellison"

>> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:22:02 GMT, "Ali Ismet Ozkan"

>> >> >http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>> >> >Thanks John, great work !

>> >> "The level of intensity that I experienced during the qualifying
>> >> session above was demanding in a way that is seldom seen in a PC-based
>> >> simulation. Based on what I've seen so far, F1 2001 may be perhaps the
>> >> most realistic, intricate, and immersive racing game ever."

>> >> Looking promising :))

>> >IMHO it looks like someone kissing ***because they got an early Beta

>> >Doug

>> >> There is enough disagreement and difficulty in the world.  Racing
>> >> simulations are games, intended first and foremost to be entertainment
>> >> vehicles.  I am sorry most of all for letting something that should be
>> >> entertaining become something that is anything but.

>> >> :-(

>> >> I am also sorry that there is not an appropriate emoticon to convey
>> >> shame for one's actions -- I would most certainly use it here and now.

>> >> Peace be with you, Doug.

>> >> -- JB

>> >I think we were both suffering from excessive agression bottled up about
>> >recent events.

>> >In hindsight- quite a good preview actually - was in interface as bloated
>> >and clunky as 2K and CS2K?

>> >Thoughts with those involved

>> >Doug

>> Thanks for being so understanding, Doug, and, again, my apologies.

>> I did neglect to address the game interface -- an oversight on my
>> part, unfortunately.  The overall "look and feel" of the menu system
>> is similar to previous offerings from ISI, so it might be safe to say
>> that it's suffering from some of the same issues as 2K and CS2K, with
>> some slight improvements.  IMO, though, I can find SOME shortcomings
>> with EVERYONE's menu system, be it Papy, MGI, Ubisoft, Microprose, or
>> ISI, so I just usually learn how to wade through the dodgy parts in
>> order to get to the racing part.  Overall, all the different
>> variations of menu systems "work," but some are less intuitive than
>> others.  I've been playing F1CS2K for so long the menus in F1 2001
>> seemed nicely intuitive, but if you're not a long-time fan of ISI
>> sims, then you're probably going to feel differently about the design.

>> Aside from the menus, one good point I failed to address:  There are
>> more setup options than in 2K and CS2K, indicating a more
>> sophisticated physics engine underneath.  The car physics files are
>> also MUCH more detailed than they were in 2K and CS2K, further
>> indicating more sophisticated physics modeling.

>> A bad point to go with the new setup options:  Setups from 2K and CS2K
>> will NOT work with F1 2001 . . . yet another reason why I've been so
>> slow, I think (all my good setups from the previous ISI titles are
>> useless in F1 2001, so I've been forced to start from scratch, and I'm
>> no crew chief).

>> I also failed to mention the new "Instant Replay" feature, which lets
>> you access an instant replay function during a race using a
>> "Ctrl-Alt-R" keystroke -- you set the amount of instant replay time in
>> the main menu, then during a race, you can instantly call up an
>> instant replay on the fly; after the replay, you're returned to the
>>***pit and can continue from there.  Nice touch, IMO -- preferrably
>> something to be used while sitting in a sand trap after an "off,"
>> though.

>> ;-)

>> My gut feeling as a physics phreak (and a GPL fan) is that in lieu of
>> a modern F1 sim from Papy, F1 2001 may be the best modern F1 sim yet.

>> The graphics engine is also very, VERY good in terms of frame rate,
>> and this is one area where 2K and CS2K were very weak, so that's a
>> VERY good thing.

>> Hope this helps fill in some of the blanks to some degree.  Sorry I
>> didn't address all this stuff originally.

>> Take care!

>> -- JB