the three. It was almost a box and the tires stuck way out. Needless to say
it blew past me, but I was using the slow standard car. Anyone else seen
this before? If so what is it?
MadDAWG
MadDAWG
I had one blow my doors off last nigt as well. I'm guessing it was some
sort of development vehicle that hasn't had the skins put on it.
that car without the "skin" is what you see when someone joins & gets on the
track, until you go into the garage... it is a generic placeholder of
sorts, why they chose that instead of the default skin is a mystery.
Joe King enlightened us with:
> I had one blow my doors off last nigt as well. I'm guessing it was
> some sort of development vehicle that hasn't had the skins put on it.
There is a good reason for the car. In all ISI based sims, there is a
big screen freeze whenever somebody joins an online session. Even GTR has
this. Well, the ISI guys seem to have figured out a fix. They have a pre-
loaded carshape for everyone who joins. Thus the server does not have to
send out any info for that car/driver and freeze the session. I think the
car is automatically replaced when the driver goes back into the pits. So
next time out, you will see his proper car...
I'm guessing they chose such a generic shape was to conserve system
resources. Who knows, in the final release, they may have a VW Beetle or
some other unique car. I wonder if the mod guys may even be able to craft
their own server cars.
dh
so this whole post is more or less rhetorical then, aint it.
Dave Henrie enlightened us with:
>> ROFLMAO...
>> that car without the "skin" is what you see when someone joins & gets
>> on the track, until you go into the garage... it is a generic
>> placeholder of sorts, why they chose that instead of the default skin
>> is a mystery.
> There is a good reason for the car. In all ISI based sims, there
> is a big screen freeze whenever somebody joins an online session.
> Even GTR has this. Well, the ISI guys seem to have figured out a
> fix. They have a pre- loaded carshape for everyone who joins. Thus
> the server does not have to send out any info for that car/driver and
> freeze the session. I think the car is automatically replaced when
> the driver goes back into the pits. So next time out, you will see
> his proper car... I'm guessing they chose such a generic shape was
> to conserve system resources. Who knows, in the final release, they
> may have a VW Beetle or some other unique car. I wonder if the mod
> guys may even be able to craft their own server cars.
> dh
> so this whole post is more or less rhetorical then, aint it.
> Dave Henrie enlightened us with:
> >> ROFLMAO...
> >> that car without the "skin" is what you see when someone joins & gets
> >> on the track, until you go into the garage... it is a generic
> >> placeholder of sorts, why they chose that instead of the default skin
> >> is a mystery.
> > There is a good reason for the car. In all ISI based sims, there
> > is a big screen freeze whenever somebody joins an online session.
> > Even GTR has this. Well, the ISI guys seem to have figured out a
> > fix. They have a pre- loaded carshape for everyone who joins. Thus
> > the server does not have to send out any info for that car/driver and
> > freeze the session. I think the car is automatically replaced when
> > the driver goes back into the pits. So next time out, you will see
> > his proper car... I'm guessing they chose such a generic shape was
> > to conserve system resources. Who knows, in the final release, they
> > may have a VW Beetle or some other unique car. I wonder if the mod
> > guys may even be able to craft their own server cars.
> > dh
You're right, the little yellow car is a placeholder for fast loading.
It is actually preloaded, so there is no loading overhead when
someone joins (and very little resource usage, since they are all the
same). Since the game is totally modifiable, there is really no way
to preload a potentially unknown (modified) car. The hitch
experienced when joining in the past was caused by disc access
(getting meshes, textures, etc), which we now defer until you are back
in the garage. The car was purposely made silly looking so people
would know that it was not an actual driver's model (it even says,
'return to monitor' on the skin, i guess that didn't go over too
well?). Hopefully, an even better solution will be found before
release.
joe
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i just wanna say you guys rock, rfactor is becoming the perfect racing game
Shouldn't that be "return to mainframe"? ;-)
Cheers, uwe
PS: Gene Wolfe reference for those who haven't read "Long Sun" series
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> > so this whole post is more or less rhetorical then, aint it.
> > Dave Henrie enlightened us with:
> > >> ROFLMAO...
> > >> that car without the "skin" is what you see when someone joins & gets
> > >> on the track, until you go into the garage... it is a generic
> > >> placeholder of sorts, why they chose that instead of the default skin
> > >> is a mystery.
> > > There is a good reason for the car. In all ISI based sims, there
> > > is a big screen freeze whenever somebody joins an online session.
> > > Even GTR has this. Well, the ISI guys seem to have figured out a
> > > fix. They have a pre- loaded carshape for everyone who joins. Thus
> > > the server does not have to send out any info for that car/driver and
> > > freeze the session. I think the car is automatically replaced when
> > > the driver goes back into the pits. So next time out, you will see
> > > his proper car... I'm guessing they chose such a generic shape was
> > > to conserve system resources. Who knows, in the final release, they
> > > may have a VW Beetle or some other unique car. I wonder if the mod
> > > guys may even be able to craft their own server cars.
> > > dh
> Hi -
> You're right, the little yellow car is a placeholder for fast loading.
> It is actually preloaded, so there is no loading overhead when
> someone joins (and very little resource usage, since they are all the
> same). Since the game is totally modifiable, there is really no way
> to preload a potentially unknown (modified) car. The hitch
> experienced when joining in the past was caused by disc access
> (getting meshes, textures, etc), which we now defer until you are back
> in the garage. The car was purposely made silly looking so people
> would know that it was not an actual driver's model (it even says,
> 'return to monitor' on the skin, i guess that didn't go over too
> well?). Hopefully, an even better solution will be found before
> release.
> joe
> image space
-Pat
Can you tell me more about this? is the texture (once you take yourself to
the garage) being handed to your computer, from the person who joins? or is
it like NR-papy where it is going to see if you have the "skin" in inventory
to then load it when you goto the garage?
thanks!
Scoob Droolins enlightened us with:
>> so this whole post is more or less rhetorical then, aint it.
>> Dave Henrie enlightened us with:
>>>> ROFLMAO...
>>>> that car without the "skin" is what you see when someone joins &
>>>> gets on the track, until you go into the garage... it is a generic
>>>> placeholder of sorts, why they chose that instead of the default
>>>> skin is a mystery.
>>> There is a good reason for the car. In all ISI based sims,
>>> there is a big screen freeze whenever somebody joins an online
>>> session. Even GTR has this. Well, the ISI guys seem to have
>>> figured out a fix. They have a pre- loaded carshape for everyone
>>> who joins. Thus the server does not have to send out any info for
>>> that car/driver and freeze the session. I think the car is
>>> automatically replaced when the driver goes back into the pits. So
>>> next time out, you will see his proper car... I'm guessing they
>>> chose such a generic shape was to conserve system resources. Who
>>> knows, in the final release, they may have a VW Beetle or some
>>> other unique car. I wonder if the mod guys may even be able to
>>> craft their own server cars.
>>> dh
> Hi -
> You're right, the little yellow car is a placeholder for fast loading.
> It is actually preloaded, so there is no loading overhead when
> someone joins (and very little resource usage, since they are all the
> same). Since the game is totally modifiable, there is really no way
> to preload a potentially unknown (modified) car. The hitch
> experienced when joining in the past was caused by disc access
> (getting meshes, textures, etc), which we now defer until you are back
> in the garage. The car was purposely made silly looking so people
> would know that it was not an actual driver's model (it even says,
> 'return to monitor' on the skin, i guess that didn't go over too
> well?). Hopefully, an even better solution will be found before
> release.
> joe
> image space
> Can you tell me more about this? is the texture (once you take yourself to
> the garage) being handed to your computer, from the person who joins? or is
> it like NR-papy where it is going to see if you have the "skin" in inventory
> to then load it when you goto the garage?
> thanks!
joe
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sorry for the delay, my usenet posts take *hours* to appear :(
I really like the "sand / beachbuggy" look for some sick reason ;-)
uwe
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Speaking for myself, I'd be happy to see the whole skin upload/dload
process delayed until a change of session, probably just race ie when the
race session is reached no one can get to the grid until all skins are
swapped. Making this optional from the client end would be good too of
course, especially for 56k-ers.
What is/will be the min/max skin filesize?
THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON IT. Why do people insist on asking useless and
pestering questions? Its like bringing a 5 year old to work with you.
Seems like a constructive suggestion rather than a question. Which is
exactly the point of releasing an early test version isn't it?