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Spin this one, Mitch.

| http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5039420.stm
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| Spin this one, Mitch.

War is hell, as they say.  Until you're faced with similar situations, I
would let others take care of what is wrong and what is right.

Alanb

: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5039420.stm
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: Spin this one, Mitch.

What's to spin?  I was against our invasion of Iraq, but what you're seeing
in tragic instances like these are a few young soldiers cracking under the
constant fear and uncertainty of their daily existence.   These kids are
worn out from extended tours, short turn around deployments and simply
waking up every day wondering if today is their last day alive.

TROLL ALERT.......whooooop  whooooop.....

  That is exactly what the civilians are feeling, all brought upon them by
  invaders. They had a much happier life before. No, they did not fear
  Saddam's jails because most people werent criminals, and didnt speak
  against the covernment (which is what a lot of you guys would like).

LS

I agree with you to a certain extent Chad but this really is a dead time for
Race Sims and which do you prefer silence or an occasional OT political war
(which you can easily ignore).  Hell Im forced to wade through posts from
the console crowd and all that arcade ***(just about as bad as liberal BS)
;)

Cant a few of us just talk about what ever we like similar to the water
cooler?  This is an un-moderated NG (why I come here and not some place like
RSC) and really anyone can say pretty much say whatever they want which is a
strength not a weakness.

That said, as long as I don;t see the troll Rex/Fredrickson/Larry/Reggie
posts I won't respond and will try to stay on topic.

Edit those replies folks, or better yet just dont reply to the Rex moron at
all, OK....

Mitch

No agenda issues there? Also, it took that long for an alleged
"massacre" to surface in the media? I can watch a car chase in
California live on CNN or FOX, but I can't get news of this "incident"
any sooner than 2 1/2 months after the fact, even from the opposing
side? If the Sunni group was so outraged, then wouldn't it seem more
probable to publicize the incident right away? Or did the Sunni group
need to authenticate the video first? They always seem to be erring on
the side of caution I suppose.

Even putting aside due process for minute and going right to
sentencing, we are talking about less than 50 soldiers who acted
wrongly. A fractional percentage of the US forces who are there on
orders trying to do the right thing in every case.

So you want us to moderate it just for you? Sounds like wanting cake and
eating it to me!

Allow me to "spin" this one with facts.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060603/D8I0ODT00.html

Amazing what a bit of time and investigation can reveal.

| >>From linked article: "The pictures came from a hardline Sunni group
| > opposed to coalition forces." AND "It has been cross-checked with other
| > images taken at the time of events and is believed to be genuine"
| >
| > No agenda issues there? Also, it took that long for an alleged
| > "massacre" to surface in the media? I can watch a car chase in
| > California live on CNN or FOX, but I can't get news of this "incident"
| > any sooner than 2 1/2 months after the fact, even from the opposing
| > side? If the Sunni group was so outraged, then wouldn't it seem more
| > probable to publicize the incident right away? Or did the Sunni group
| > need to authenticate the video first? They always seem to be erring on
| > the side of caution I suppose.
| >
| > Even putting aside due process for minute and going right to
| > sentencing, we are talking about less than 50 soldiers who acted
| > wrongly. A fractional percentage of the US forces who are there on
| > orders trying to do the right thing in every case.
| >
| Please can we get back to Sim Racing?

Good idea.  I agree with this 50-soldier thing.  This kind of thing happens
in war, on both sides: it's the nature of the beast.  Hiding it for all this
time is worst than the actual act, is my feeling.  It would be like someone
racing on rFactor.  He joins a server and does a few fast laps.  Someone
asks him, hey, how are you so fast?  The guy replies, dunno-- it's my first
time on this track.

But the guy had been running the track since last November.

Sorry-- it's the best I can do.  :)

Alanb

No, I want you to moderate it just for you (and other OT haters).  Im not
crying about OT posts am I?

You ask me to stay OnT and I gave you a suggestion that will keep my
responses OnT.  If that's to difficult then be prepared for OT posts.
Pretty simple, no? ...

I'm giving a pass on this thread but will not next time.  Dont come back
crying to me about OT when I do.

Sounds to me like youre wanting cake and eating it too Tony, LOL.

Mitch

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