rec.autos.simulators

by **Rod Princ** » Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:08:18

Iain,

I don't know anymore. F12000, F1RC, F1RS. ;/

Yes, overcoming my punting issues with F1RS not F1CS.

All F1'ed out,
Rod.

by **Ali Ismet Ozka** » Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:20:48

That part of the reply was about being forgiving, nothing else. So my reply
is consistent.

--

> Ali Ismet Ozkan
> F1CS2K Hotlapper

> Doesn't really matter if you can do a 1:06 there if the fact remains it
> doesn't feel like you're doing it in a F1 car.

> --

> Ian P
> <email invalid due to spammers>

> > > The whole thing is too
> > > forgiving

> > When you are trying 1:07:XXX on A1-Ring using stock physics on Replay
> > Manager 1.996 ???
> > I think NOT !!!

> > --
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> > F1CS2K Hotlapper

by **Ali Ismet Ozka** » Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:33:35

I just pop up in F1CS2K threads except for the car-shape and paint talks...

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Why don't you join

> Hey "Ali Ismet Ozkan" you are new here, yes? I like your style & attitude!
> You can stay!! hahaha :-) Cheers Thom_j.

> | > The whole thing is too
> | > forgiving

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by **Matt Lanze** » Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:23:30

F1CS2K is the only modern F1 sim that gets any use on my puter. F1RC and GP3
don't do it for me at all. I have it patched with Bodin's All-Chassis patch
(***, of course ;) ), and play it more than GPL on F1 weekends...

Warlock!

> Hey all,

> Now before I get pistol whipped and kicked in the groin, I'm not trying to
> start a flame war or anything! LOL

> I know most people have a problem with F1RC due to the AI, multiplayer, etc.
> I am not the worlds biggest F1 fan, so I have a question about F1CS2K as to
> why it doesn't seem to be that popular among the modern F1 sim racers? Out
> of the F1 titles I have tried, It seems to be pretty good. Especially in
> comparison to GP2.1.. I mean GP"3". ;)

> Now I know If I ask ymenard, he will tell me the pebble on the third turn at
> Monaco is turned 3 degrees to the left further than the actual pebble he
> witnessed while watching the race and a list of other items in similar
> context. ;)

> I just reloaded it last night and was doing some racing and I still thought
> it was pretty decent. So I was just curious to what 'faults' alot of you
> have with it other than it being an EA title <G>.

> Thanks,
> Scott
> PA-Scott
> The Pits - http://www.racesimcentral.net/

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by **Ali Ismet Ozka** » Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:47:13

Yes, how a sim feels is a never ending topic and has been talked over and
over to death. It attracts popularity and is a perfect source for flame
wars. Everyone should happily drive whatever they "like". It is a pure
subjective thema and any effort to make it an objective one is futile. The
only thing I objected was the claim that F1CS2K being forgiving.

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by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Wed, 18 Jul 2001 02:49:42

> F1CS2K is the only modern F1 sim that gets any use on my puter. F1RC and GP3
> don't do it for me at all. I have it patched with Bodin's All-Chassis patch
> (***, of course ;) ), and play it more than GPL on F1 weekends...

what does this patch do? and where can we get it?

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by **Ali Ismet Ozka** » Wed, 18 Jul 2001 03:49:05

It gives distinctive physical behaviour to each car and makes them less
sluggish but more agile. It's included in the MagicBox packet under the
physics section. Here, take a look :
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
way to try different game settings without messing up the original game
files.

Some say "*** Physics" is the best, but keep in mind you'll have the
tweak your setups a bit to use with this new car physics. So, don't give up
at the first spin.

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Ali Ismet Ozkan
F1CS2K Hotlapper

> > F1CS2K is the only modern F1 sim that gets any use on my puter. F1RC and
GP3
> > don't do it for me at all. I have it patched with Bodin's All-Chassis
patch
> > (***, of course ;) ), and play it more than GPL on F1 weekends...

> what does this patch do? and where can we get it?

> --
> Gunnar
> #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo: 2
> "a poster is a human being or the software equivalent"

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Wed, 18 Jul 2001 04:10:00

The claim about being forgiving - which you and I have discussed before -
was relating to reactions to mistakes, ie. too much kerb, etc. and the ease
with which one can stay on the track. It may relate to the sluggish feel of
the driving experience in F1CS but, as you say, it's only an opinion!
Iain

> Yes, how a sim feels is a never ending topic and has been talked over and
> over to death. It attracts popularity and is a perfect source for flame
> wars. Everyone should happily drive whatever they "like". It is a pure
> subjective thema and any effort to make it an objective one is futile. The
> only thing I objected was the claim that F1CS2K being forgiving.

> --
> Ali Ismet Ozkan
> F1CS2K Hotlapper

> > I'm not being a wise azz either, just stating my opinions on the current
> > sims and how they feel to me.

> > --

> > Ian P
> > <email invalid due to spammers>

by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Wed, 18 Jul 2001 04:12:09

dammit. I'm gonna need an armchair mechanic one of these days. :)

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"Det er nok ingen ovn, men fartsm?leren v?r."

by **Ali Ismet Ozka** » Wed, 18 Jul 2001 06:03:45

... and a new F1CS2K guide, too ! ;)

> > Some say "*** Physics" is the best, but keep in mind you'll have
the
> > tweak your setups a bit to use with this new car physics. So, don't give
up
> > at the first spin.

> dammit. I'm gonna need an armchair mechanic one of these days. :)

> --
> Gunnar
> #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo: 2
> "Det er nok ingen ovn, men fartsm?leren v?r."

by **Ali Ismet Ozka** » Wed, 18 Jul 2001 05:59:39

And my point was that if one does really push it to the limit, it won't take
long find out that it's not easy at all to stay on track. We are not driving
a sedan sim after all.

by **Thom j** » Wed, 18 Jul 2001 08:04:04

"O" ok.. Your name just semed new to me!! :-) Btw: "Why don't you join"
was this directed to me? and if so what doo you mean? Thom_j.

| > Hey "Ali Ismet Ozkan" you are new here, yes? I like your style &
attitude!
| > You can stay!! hahaha :-) Cheers Thom_j.
| >

| > | When you are trying 1:07:XXX on A1-Ring using stock physics on Replay
| > | Manager 1.996 ???
| > | I think NOT !!!
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| > | Ali Ismet Ozkan
| > | F1CS2K Hotlapper
| >

| > | > The whole thing is too
| > | > forgiving
| >
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by **Thom j** » Wed, 18 Jul 2001 08:33:35

No worries Ian. I was only curious thats all. Thanx for the info Thom_j.

| No I haven't raced a 2000 F1 car, but you can see clearly from TV coverage
| that they don't have anywhere near the suspension movement shown (and
felt)
| in F1 2000 and CS. You can also see they change direction far quicker, far
| more responsively than the ones modelled in the EA sims.
| I have driven a sand buggy however, and F1 2000 feels oh so similar ;)
| I'm not saying the other modern F1 sims are totally accurate, but they
feel
| more like I'd expect an F1 sim to behave.
| BTW, I'm hoping to actually get a go in a modern(ish) F1 car sometime next
| year, funds permitting, so if I'm wrong, I'll be the first to tell you :)
|
|
| Just incase you're interested, I also haven't driven a NASCAR, but N4
seems
| to model the driving very closely to what I'd expect from seeing them on
TV.
| IMO it's technically the best sim currently available.
|
|
| I'm not being a wise azz either, just stating my opinions on the current
| sims and how they feel to me.
|
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|
| Ian P
| <email invalid due to spammers>
|
|
| > "Have you ever raced in the new 2000 series F1s?" Tia.. Thom_j.
| > {Honest question Ian P.. Not intending to be a wise-azz either!}

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by **Ali Ismet Ozka** » Thu, 19 Jul 2001 01:33:24

Oops, it's just a remain of an incomplete erase action. :)

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> "O" ok.. Your name just semed new to me!! :-) Btw: "Why don't you join"
> was this directed to me? and if so what doo you mean? Thom_j.

> | I just pop up in F1CS2K threads except for the car-shape and paint
> talks...
> |
> | --
> | Ali Ismet Ozkan
> | F1CS2K Hotlapper
> |
> |
> | Why don't you join

> | > Hey "Ali Ismet Ozkan" you are new here, yes? I like your style &
> attitude!
> | > You can stay!! hahaha :-) Cheers Thom_j.
> | >

> | > | When you are trying 1:07:XXX on A1-Ring using stock physics on
Replay
> | > | Manager 1.996 ???
> | > | I think NOT !!!
> | > | --
> | > | Ali Ismet Ozkan
> | > | F1CS2K Hotlapper
> | >

> | > | > The whole thing is too
> | > | > forgiving
> | >
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by **Thom j** » Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:10:12

Hahaha "O" O'tay!!!

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