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I've been "Warezed"

George Jetso

I've been "Warezed"

by George Jetso » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:12:35

I was just trying to be helpful.

For $39.95 I usually expect a shrink wrapped box, cd, 24 hour support number
and a professionally printed manual (that I refuse to read).

450 kb of downloaded "shareware" I'm thinking in the 5 to 10 buck range.

GJ

J. Todd Wass

I've been "Warezed"

by J. Todd Wass » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:41:36

My $39.95 program does everything this one does:

http://quarterjr.com/quarter_pro.htm

Price?  $265.  Actually, mine does quite a bit more because it's got an engine
simulation built in to it that could easily cost another $200 if it was spruced
up a bit :-)

Another comparable program sells for $69, so personally, I think I'm offering
quite a bargain.  Folks can get a disk like you describe for an extra $6 (which
still leaves me well under typical prices for this type of program), but so far
I've had no takers.  They all prefer the cheaper direct download with no
package.  Why someone would want to wait a few days to get their software is
beyond me.  On the other hand, there are people that want to pay more just to
get the pretty box :-)

Unfortunately, there are quite a few peole still stuck in this frame of mind
where file size means something.  The fact of the matter is that the compiler I
use makes unusually small files, as it doesn't include all the garbage that
does not get used at all when compiling with Visual Basic or MSVC++.  It's an
efficient compiler, so you get really small files.

A simple VB or MSVC program that does nothing but open a window and say
"HOWDY!" can run over a Megabyte.  In my compiler, it's probably about .01Mb,
but the program is identical.

In fact, to help us out, the creators of the compiler actually included a new
keyword in their latest release that you can put at the beginning of your code.
 I kid you not:

#BLOAT

This basically takes a whole slew of functions and so forth that your program
will never use and adds them into your source code (Visual Basic and MSVC++
style) in order to artificially inflate the file size by a couple of megabytes
:-D  It's sole purpose is to dupe people that think along the lines you think
into believing they're getting more for their money.  The reality is all you're
getting is a bigger, less efficient file, that now requires a CD instead of one
little floppy, or takes longer to download.  

Perhaps I should try it as an experiment and see if sales increase.  That'd
really crack me up if it did :-)  Downloads take 4 times as long so folks think
they're getting something more...

Ah well...  

Todd Wasson
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Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

My little car sim screenshots:
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

J. Todd Wass

I've been "Warezed"

by J. Todd Wass » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:43:38

LOL!!!  Yes, maybe we should nuke them over this ;-)  

Todd Wasson
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Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

My little car sim screenshots:
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

J. Todd Wass

I've been "Warezed"

by J. Todd Wass » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:52:44

The 3D car simulator in my bottom link is composed of two files:

0.206mb +0.216mb = 0.416mb

Funny that it's actually smaller than the drag racing thing, huh? :-P

It comes down to the compiler I'm using, that's it.  Compile the same thing in
C++ and it'll probably be 5-10 times the size.  Of course, it won't be any
better, it'll just take up more disk space :-D

My source code files are actually larger than the compiled files, oddly enough.
 If anything, this should increase the value in my mind, not vice versa, since
it's saving disk space.  Oh well..  

BTW., if you find something as powerful for anywhere near the price, regardless
of the file size, let me know ;-)

Todd Wasson
---
Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

My little car sim screenshots:
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

falco

I've been "Warezed"

by falco » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:54:13

SNIP-Warez version on a Chinese website.  Now I

  LoL

 well now you do know what its like from the otherside like you said . ;)
  so why does it bother you ?
does this mean your going to rebait all of the companys money inwhich you
have downloaded in warez ?.  :P

J. Todd Wass

I've been "Warezed"

by J. Todd Wass » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:03:27

Hehe :-)  It's not the size of your file that counts, it's the way it wiggles
when you press the buttons :-)

Thanks, Uwe.

Todd Wasson
---
Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

My little car sim screenshots:
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

J. Todd Wass

I've been "Warezed"

by J. Todd Wass » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:10:08

That's a joke, right?

You're just kidding around, I know, but actually I don't download any warez.
Windows came with the laptop I use, and I paid $199 for my compiler.  GPL cost
me probably $15-$30 or so.  What else does a growing boy need? ;-)

Todd Wasson
---
Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

My little car sim screenshots:
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

J. Todd Wass

I've been "Warezed"

by J. Todd Wass » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:13:36


resulted in the thread being deleted.  This wasn't one of the chinese sites,
but my faith in humanity is slowly becoming restored... ;-)

Todd Wasson
---
Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

My little car sim screenshots:
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

Ruud van Ga

I've been "Warezed"

by Ruud van Ga » Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:17:04


Fastest way is to get the Chinese selling oil to the US. ;-)
Then, just wait a bit.

Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/
Pencil art  : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

GTX_SlotCa

I've been "Warezed"

by GTX_SlotCa » Wed, 26 Feb 2003 07:06:02


> Perhaps I should try it as an experiment and see if sales increase.
That'd
> really crack me up if it did :-)  Downloads take 4 times as long so folks
think
> they're getting something more...

You'd be surprised. Back in the early 70's I managed a Radio Shack store.
When a new stereo receiver came in I told the salespeople how well it would
sell, not by listening to it, but by it's KPD ratio. The higher the KPD
ratio, the better it would sell. I was always right.  Probably because they
didn't want to sound ignorant, nobody ever asked me what it was. Not the
salespeople or the customers. After a couple years it got a little out of
hand when the salespeople started using it as a sales tool and stating that
this receiver has a higher KPD ratio than that one, so I had to put an end
to it.
The KPD ratio is, of course, Knobs Per Dollar.

:-)

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J. Todd Wass

I've been "Warezed"

by J. Todd Wass » Wed, 26 Feb 2003 07:56:11

hehehehe :-)  Yes, perhaps that's the solution!

Todd Wasson
---
Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

My little car sim screenshots:
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

J. Todd Wass

I've been "Warezed"

by J. Todd Wass » Wed, 26 Feb 2003 07:55:18

<snip>

Thanks for the laugh!  You're right, it probably would work :-)

Todd Wasson
---
Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

My little car sim screenshots:
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

Jim Seamu

I've been "Warezed"

by Jim Seamu » Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:34:53



Are you sure? :)

J. Todd Wass

I've been "Warezed"

by J. Todd Wass » Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:10:55

Well....  Not if you add the car and track :-)

Todd Wasson
---
Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

My little car sim screenshots:
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

J. Todd Wass

I've been "Warezed"

by J. Todd Wass » Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:21:36

BTW, Jim, did you get my email?

Todd Wasson
---
Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

My little car sim screenshots:
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm


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