rec.autos.simulators

by **J. Todd Wass** » Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:19:12

Grrr.... The last person that bought a copy of my Straightline Acceleration
Simulator was kind enough to post a Warez version on a Chinese website. Now I
know how it feels from the other side. It was just a matter of time, I guess.
This really p*sses me off!!

I'd like to take this opportuntity to say, please do not download Warez
versions of software!

Any tips on how to proceed? I'd love to nail somebody to the wall for this one
:-)

Todd Wasson
---
Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

My little car sim screenshots:
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

by **William Bradsha** » Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:56:08

My guess would be to contact the company who is hosting the download and try
to get it removed ASAP. Stuff like that usually violates TOS. If you're
looking to be evil (like me :) then you can also send the customer a notice,
legal threat, stern words, or whatever you want to call it. If you're out
for real ***, ahem I mean money, then you should contact a lawyer to see
what your options are.

-Will

by **Stev** » Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:15:04

If its on a Chinese site, you havent got a hope in hell of getting anything done. Its a waste of time trying to do anything.

--

__________

Steve

> > Grrr.... The last person that bought a copy of my Straightline
> Acceleration
> > Simulator was kind enough to post a Warez version on a Chinese website.
> Now I
> > know how it feels from the other side. It was just a matter of time, I
> guess.
> > This really p*sses me off!!

> > I'd like to take this opportuntity to say, please do not download Warez
> > versions of software!

> > Any tips on how to proceed? I'd love to nail somebody to the wall for
> this one
> > :-)

> > Todd Wasson
> > ---
> > Performance Simulations
> > Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
> > Software
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > My little car sim screenshots:
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> My guess would be to contact the company who is hosting the download and try
> to get it removed ASAP. Stuff like that usually violates TOS. If you're
> looking to be evil (like me :) then you can also send the customer a notice,
> legal threat, stern words, or whatever you want to call it. If you're out
> for real ***, ahem I mean money, then you should contact a lawyer to see
> what your options are.

> -Will

by **Goy Larse** » Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:44:22

> Grrr.... The last person that bought a copy of my Straightline Acceleration
> Simulator was kind enough to post a Warez version on a Chinese website. Now I
> know how it feels from the other side. It was just a matter of time, I guess.
> This really p*sses me off!!

You have my utmost sympathy

Do you know for a fact and can prove who posted it ?

If this person live in Europe/EU or the US, you can always contact a
lawyer and start legal proceedings

You can also contact the server owner and ask them to kindly remove your
program from their server, however if it's a Chinese server I wouldn't
ge my hopes up, start with a very friendly mail though, there really not
too much you can do to hurt them if they're in China, and they know
this, so if you***them off they're not likely to comply

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

by **J. Todd Wass** » Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:01:51

It showed up within 24 hours of this person's purchase (and I don't get very
many sales, quite frankly, so it's not too tough to come to a reasonable
conclusion there), but I don't know that I can prove it just yet.

It was a high school kid, so that might be a fruitless thing to do.

My thoughts exactly. Unfortunately, I already sent a rather demanding letter
to the hosting site and a couple of their affiliates. I do have the email
address of the guy that posted the links originally and have been writing him.
Of course he want me to leave him alone and says he doesn't do such things.
Duh..

Funny thing is, I wrote several of these people and this guy claims to have
received three emails from me on the subject (I only sent him one), so it looks
like a couple of the others I sent got forwarded to him. So I do have a
smoking gun, but I'm not sure if it's the original purchaser or not.

I rue the day this free link shows up on a simple Google search.

Todd Wasson
---
Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

My little car sim screenshots:
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

by **George Jetso** » Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:41:18

$39.95 for a .5 mb piece of software. What a bargain.

GJ

by **Tim** » Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:51:58

I'm not sure what you point is, but having devleoped software for years, I can assure you it is the content that is the value of it,
certainly not the 'size' of a file.

--
Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com

> $39.95 for a .5 mb piece of software. What a bargain.

> GJ

by **Jan Koh** » Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:26:14

> $39.95 for a .5 mb piece of software. What a bargain.

> GJ

So, by your logic, Windows NT server at $800/liscense IS justified, because it comes on several CDs. Nevermind that it's only 5
years old.

Jan Kohl

by **JTBur** » Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:34:13

I would say that is NOT a bargain either.
Todd

because it comes on several CDs. Nevermind that it's only 5

by **Mikkel Gram-Hanse** » Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:48:07

If you don't like the prize, don't buy it !!!
Todd has spend a lot of time and effort on this project, who are you to put
it down like this just by looking at the file size ?

MIkkel
PS: Ohhhh 5 kilo cement is cheaper than 5 grams of gold... that cement thing
must be a bargain then.

by **Larr** » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 01:53:27

And an ounce of Gold costs how much?

What's your point ?

Larry

> $39.95 for a .5 mb piece of software. What a bargain.

> GJ

> > Grrr.... The last person that bought a copy of my Straightline
> Acceleration
> > Simulator was kind enough to post a Warez version on a Chinese website.
> Now I
> > know how it feels from the other side. It was just a matter of time, I
> guess.
> > This really p*sses me off!!

> > I'd like to take this opportuntity to say, please do not download Warez
> > versions of software!

> > Any tips on how to proceed? I'd love to nail somebody to the wall for
> this one
> > :-)

> > Todd Wasson
> > ---
> > Performance Simulations
> > Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
> > Software
> > http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

> > My little car sim screenshots:
> > http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

by **Some Call Me Ti** » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 03:58:16

Write a letter to of complaint to George Bush and he might invade China for
you;-)

Some Call Me Tim

by **LeeLiz** » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 04:43:29

Who gives a s**t what is costs. Stealing is stealing, right?

Lee

> And an ounce of Gold costs how much?

> What's your point ?

> Larry

> > $39.95 for a .5 mb piece of software. What a bargain.

> > GJ

> > > Grrr.... The last person that bought a copy of my Straightline
> > Acceleration
> > > Simulator was kind enough to post a Warez version on a Chinese
website.
> > Now I
> > > know how it feels from the other side. It was just a matter of time,
I
> > guess.
> > > This really p*sses me off!!

> > > I'd like to take this opportuntity to say, please do not download
Warez
> > > versions of software!

> > > Any tips on how to proceed? I'd love to nail somebody to the wall for
> > this one
> > > :-)

> > > Todd Wasson
> > > ---
> > > Performance Simulations
> > > Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
> > > Software
> > > http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

> > > My little car sim screenshots:
> > > http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

by **Uwe hoover Schuerkam** » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 04:16:47

> I'm not sure what you point is, but having devleoped software for years, I can assure you it is the content that is the value of it,
> certainly not the 'size' of a file.

> --
> Tim White
> www.intracmotorsports.com

>> $39.95 for a .5 mb piece of software. What a bargain.

>> GJ

I guess the OP is working for MS, where SIZE MATTERS ;-)

Sorry to hear of your troubles, Todd.

Cheers,

uwe

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by **Uwe hoover Schuerkam** » Tue, 25 Feb 2003 04:21:07

Right on, buddy. After the "War on terrorism", the "War on
Piracy" will be next... and after that, the "War on Privacy",
similar spelling, oh no wait, that was already taken care of in
War #1, right? At least for our U.S. based simracing friends 8-(

Bye for now,

uwe

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