rec.autos.simulators

>On 9 Sep 98 22:58:20 GMT, "Masse"

>>Today I saw a german videofilm with over 100 crashes from the Ring, made by
>>a amateur-filmer in the 70s. He had been filming tha same sharp left bend
>>every saturday in almost 10 year. On sundays the public could probably try
>>the track themself, because every car I saw was a standard car! (No
>>racecars!)

>You can still do that today. It costs around DM15 (AFAI remember) to
>lap the Ring, and it takes about a quarter of an hour for a
>non-expert.

>It is more than likely the corner that you are talking about is called
>Adenauer Forst, which is approached from Fuchsrohre very quickly. The reason
>everyone was crashing was/is because the instinctive line for the 'chicane'
>tightens so much more than expected. I should know... I had to jump the
>kerbing when I went round the Nordschleife a bit too enthusiastically for
>the first time in my stock Toyota Starlet a couple of months ago!! <g>

>>It is more than likely the corner that you are talking about is called
>>Adenauer Forst, which is approached from Fuchsrohre very quickly. The
reason
>>everyone was crashing was/is because the instinctive line for the
'chicane'
>>tightens so much more than expected. I should know... I had to jump the
>>kerbing when I went round the Nordschleife a bit too enthusiastically for
>>the first time in my stock Toyota Starlet a couple of months ago!! <g>

>This sounds so familiar. Replace "months" with "years", "Starlet" with
>"Celica" and "jump the kerbing" with "hit the guard rails", and you
>got my story. :)

>>I can't wait for GPL to re-live a lap of the ring. Even in a crappy 1.2
>>Starlet,  50hp and with 3 people in the car, the track is faster, steeper,
>>tighter and more insane than you can possibly imagine. The fact that
people
>>have raced F1 cars there just blows my mind! The track is quite simply
>>awe-inspiring, and I drove around the newer circuit that they flattened
out
>>a bit in 1972 to remove a lot of the jumps!

>>And I'm still waiting for Alison's report of the Papyrus Cup Race at the
>>'ring..... :)

>Ditto.

>--
>Wolfgang Preiss   \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

cancellation

>Yes pete, I seem to recall nearly doing the same the lap before when i was
>driving your car, I did warn you to slow down...:o)
>Robin.


>> It is more than likely the corner that you are talking about is called
>> Adenauer Forst, which is approached from Fuchsrohre very quickly. The
>reason
>> everyone was crashing was/is because the instinctive line for the
>'chicane'
>> tightens so much more than expected. I should know... I had to jump the
>> kerbing when I went round the Nordschleife a bit too enthusiastically for
>> the first time in my stock Toyota Starlet a couple of months ago!! <g>

>> I can't wait for GPL to re-live a lap of the ring. Even in a crappy 1.2
>> Starlet,  50hp and with 3 people in the car, the track is faster,
>steeper,
>> tighter and more insane than you can possibly imagine. The fact that
>people
>> have raced F1 cars there just blows my mind! The track is quite simply
>> awe-inspiring, and I drove around the newer circuit that they flattened
>out
>> a bit in 1972 to remove a lot of the jumps!

>> And I'm still waiting for Alison's report of the Papyrus Cup Race at the
>> 'ring..... :)

>> Pete Tabram

>I think the bikers must have been cursing me for the amount of sand I
>deposited on the track; still at least it was'nt oil and metal shards hey
>Wolfgang ;-)

>You can still do that today. It costs around DM15 (AFAI remember) to
>lap the Ring, and it takes about a quarter of an hour for a

>>I think the bikers must have been cursing me for the amount of sand I
>>deposited on the track; still at least it was'nt oil and metal shards hey
>>Wolfgang ;-)

>It was YOU!!! Very irresponsible of you ... I almost fell of my bike this
>summer at the ring ...

>:-)

>Hena