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is Vista worth it?

shpanke

is Vista worth it?

by shpanke » Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:19:51

Can Vista run most sims out there? Thinking about upgrading.
mls06

is Vista worth it?

by mls06 » Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:23:37


> Can Vista run most sims out there? Thinking about upgrading.

Not yet as far as I can tell. Some people are having serious performance
issues even with high end equipment. Wait until drivers mature a lot
more.Probably a year or so.Just mho.

Mike
mls67
TrippBros. Racing

Rush

is Vista worth it?

by Rush » Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:46:32

I run Vista and GTR2 and Nascar 2003 with no problems.  Computer horsepower
is the key and staying on top of new drivers.  I install the day it came out
just to see for myself how an operating systems matures and how fast.  High
end components makers and MS have done a pretty good job.  The activation
process caused me the only grief one month after install but MS support got
me through that crisis


deadguy

is Vista worth it?

by deadguy » Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:14:01

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:19:51 -0500,


> Can Vista run most sims out there? Thinking about upgrading.

always wait for the first service
pack before installing a new os.
John Smit

is Vista worth it?

by John Smit » Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:49:31

I have a copy just sitting around. I was going to install it, but decided to
wait until the bugs are worked out.
shpanke

is Vista worth it?

by shpanke » Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:03:41

thanks all, i'll hold off for awhile i guess then.


Larr

is Vista worth it?

by Larr » Mon, 09 Jul 2007 07:13:48

I ran Vista for 6 months.  From the day of release.

2 weeks ago I scrubbed it and went back to XP.

It's not that I didn't like Vista.  I did.  I wanted to keep it.  The
problem is hardware and software compatibility.

I got tired of my higher-end hardware running in half-ass mode.  I paid good
money for high performance parts, and I want them to run at thier full
performance.

I also had some software compatibility issues that I needed to get rid of.

When SP1 comes out we'll try again.

-Larry


Larr

is Vista worth it?

by Larr » Mon, 09 Jul 2007 07:16:29

Yeah, having a $600 Video Card and a $400 Sound Card running in half-ass
mode really stinks.  I went back to XP because of this and other issues.
I'll try again when SP1 comes out.

I am not convinced that Audio will ever be right again.  Microsoft really
screwed EVERYONE when they pulled DX Audio from Vista.  The likes of
Creative are doing the best they can, but they had an entire architecture
pulled out from underneath them.

-Larry



>> Can Vista run most sims out there? Thinking about upgrading.
> Not yet as far as I can tell. Some people are having serious performance
> issues even with high end equipment. Wait until drivers mature a lot
> more.Probably a year or so.Just mho.

> Mike
> mls67
> TrippBros. Racing

Larr

is Vista worth it?

by Larr » Mon, 09 Jul 2007 07:20:25

One other thing.  Think REAL hard before buying the Ultimate version.  IMHO,
it is a complete rip-off.

IMHO (and others, it seems) Microsoft has not met it's promise with the
delivery of Ultimate Extra's that were to be selective to this version of
the OS.

I actually feel embarrased that I paid for this version.  I should have gone
with Premium instead.

Unless you MUST have the backup software (which can be replaced with Acronis
for $49, and it's tons better), or the few Ultimate and Business version
specific networking features (which almost no home user needs), then don't
waste so much money on Ultimate.

Check the comparison chart carefully.  I bet you could do with premium just
fine.

Don't even consider Ultimate for the Extra's.  Ultimate Extra's is a
Ghost-Town.  There are rumors the team has even been dis-banded.

-Larry


Uwe Sch??rkam

is Vista worth it?

by Uwe Sch??rkam » Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:43:03


> thanks all, i'll hold off for awhile i guess then.

I'll refrain from upgrading my games machine to anything else unless the
next "sim to have" forces me to.

I ran 98SE just fine until GTR (online9 broke it and plan to do the same
with my copy of XP (anything remotely productive runs on my Linux
machine, anyway).

All the best, uwe

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Uwe Sch??rkam

is Vista worth it?

by Uwe Sch??rkam » Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:45:17


> Yeah, having a $600 Video Card and a $400 Sound Card running in half-ass
> mode really stinks.  I went back to XP because of this and other issues.
> I'll try again when SP1 comes out.

> I am not convinced that Audio will ever be right again.  Microsoft really
> screwed EVERYONE when they pulled DX Audio from Vista.  The likes of
> Creative are doing the best they can, but they had an entire architecture
> pulled out from underneath them.

Let's hope developers learn from this one. I read an article last week
that dev MS mindshare dropped by 10% last year, as more people take a
serious look at alternatives like Linux.

Cheers, uwe

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Plowbo

is Vista worth it?

by Plowbo » Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:30:55

Do Like I do, dual boot!  you can install vista after you install XP on that
"new machine"...

All you would need is some help/information on what to do with some hard
drive partitioning tools...  I like Acronis 10.x for this purpose.  Do some
googling on the best way to dual boot because it is POSSIBLE to install XP
onto a Vista PC, it just is more details to work out.

But even easier, is My absolute favorite way to Dual boot:  is a 2 Hard
drives in one of those swappable drive holders.  I got mine from Newegg.
Keeps the missus & the kids from screwing up the *** OS.  when I go to
game I shut off the PC, swap the trays out, turn on and game.  we shut off
the PC at night anywho, so when I get done I just wait and swap the drive
when power finally goes off (after shut down).  easy enough to swap drives
that my honey can do it, if I forget (she knows that if her user doesnt show
up, means wrong HD in tray.  shut off restart after swapping the drive and
off she goes to email...

Right now though we're just dual booting one HD, fwiw.

shpankey enlightened us with:

> thanks all, i'll hold off for awhile i guess then.



>> I have a copy just sitting around. I was going to install it, but
>> decided to wait until the bugs are worked out.

Gladiato

is Vista worth it?

by Gladiato » Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:27:12


>Yeah, having a $600 Video Card and a $400 Sound Card running in half-ass
>mode really stinks.  I went back to XP because of this and other issues.
>I'll try again when SP1 comes out.

>I am not convinced that Audio will ever be right again.  Microsoft really
>screwed EVERYONE when they pulled DX Audio from Vista.  The likes of
>Creative are doing the best they can, but they had an entire architecture
>pulled out from underneath them.

>-Larry

Well, the way the audio driver is done in Vista is actually better for
sound quality but does take up more resources in games. I don't think
much of Creative's EAX anyway, too often it sounds too processed and
fake. Vista evens the playing field for other soundcard manufacturers.
It will all work out well in the end, you'll see.
Larr

is Vista worth it?

by Larr » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:23:02

There was nothing to work out.  It was all FINE.  It's not fine any more.
It's busted.  I think the audio under Vista is horrible, especially with
on-board sound.

-Larry


Gladiato

is Vista worth it?

by Gladiato » Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:54:29


>There was nothing to work out.  It was all FINE.  It's not fine any more.
>It's busted.  I think the audio under Vista is horrible, especially with
>on-board sound.

>-Larry

That's due to ***drivers and not Vista. Just like many issues in
games in Vista are due to ***video drivers and not Vista itself. The
manufacturers are slow getting up to speed with the new driver model.
I still don't have a Vista driver for my HP Laser printer.

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