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Screw XP; 98 or ME?

Steve Garrot

Screw XP; 98 or ME?

by Steve Garrot » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:45:27

Windows 2000 Professional! The only option for upper end machines that
don't want to run Win98SE.

SLG


>After the troubles Alison Hine (and others) have had with XP installs, I'm
>not going to upgrade to Bill Gates' latest booty-booster after all.

>The only question left: 98 or ME?

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
due to too many English classes/teachers)
Cong

Screw XP; 98 or ME?

by Cong » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:56:50

"Its a crappy gna gna" So many pseudo experts in this newsgroup *YAWN*

In answer to your question. I recommend that you use ME and then disable the
system restore option under the system icon in your control panel, also you
will get an updated plug and play database that works very well and a TCP/IP
stack that performs much much better then 98.

In GPL for instance on identical machines (three tested so far) GPL is 15 to
20% faster under 9X also if you use a Soundblaster live you won't get the
pop up associated with 2K/XP, then there is the refresh rate issue....all in
all as far as a *** OS. ME with the system restore disabled is KING.

Remember to enable  DMA on your drives and set a static swap file.




> > After the troubles Alison Hine (and others) have had with XP installs,
I'm
> > not going to upgrade to Bill Gates' latest booty-booster after all.

> > The only question left: 98 or ME?

> Never had a single problem with XP pro. IMO its been the best OS out of
> Micro$oft yet. The only real negitive is that registration crap. IMO an OS
> is just like a game. If you put it on two little hardware its not gonna
run
> for shit. Now I missed Alison's problems, but from her router thread I got
> the feeling that her hardware is not all that new.

> MadDAWG

Goy Larse

Screw XP; 98 or ME?

by Goy Larse » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:28:03


> "Its a crappy gna gna" So many pseudo experts in this newsgroup *YAWN*

> In answer to your question. I recommend that you use ME and then disable the
> system restore option under the system icon in your control panel, also you
> will get an updated plug and play database that works very well and a TCP/IP
> stack that performs much much better then 98.

> In GPL for instance on identical machines (three tested so far) GPL is 15 to
> 20% faster under 9X also if you use a Soundblaster live you won't get the
> pop up associated with 2K/XP, then there is the refresh rate issue....all in
> all as far as a *** OS. ME with the system restore disabled is KING.

> Remember to enable  DMA on your drives and set a static swap file.

I bow to your superior knowledge

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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Joachim Trens

Screw XP; 98 or ME?

by Joachim Trens » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:06:07

IMO ME is more stable than 98 (and probably 98se), and is more refined. But,
many people had probs getting it to run well.

OTOH, I've had it running in true excellency on a lot of different hardware,
and using lots of different application or low level software, drivers etc.

Mainly because of its flawless stability I'd personally chose ME over 98se,
but I am reluctant to recommend it to you because it can obviously take some
tweaking to get it run like it does for me, thinking of the fairly large
amount of problems reported regarding ME by others.

If you decide to get ME, ask me if you get probs.

Achim


Andi

Screw XP; 98 or ME?

by Andi » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:46:25

I've just re-tried my old SB Live 'cos I wanted the digital out, up 'til
then I was using the on-board AC97 which was fine. The SB Live started
cracckling again in TIR so I took it out. Put in a cheap Audigy and ... WOW
this card sounds incredible.

Oh, and you can't beat XP for stability and performance, it benchmarks
higher than a clean install of ME and always recovers from a bad bit of s/w.
Don't do any MS updates though they tend to***things up.

Andi.


Cong

Screw XP; 98 or ME?

by Cong » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:46:45

What's that on the side of your mouth?



> > "Its a crappy gna gna" So many pseudo experts in this newsgroup *YAWN*

> > In answer to your question. I recommend that you use ME and then disable
the
> > system restore option under the system icon in your control panel, also
you
> > will get an updated plug and play database that works very well and a
TCP/IP
> > stack that performs much much better then 98.

> > In GPL for instance on identical machines (three tested so far) GPL is
15 to
> > 20% faster under 9X also if you use a Soundblaster live you won't get
the
> > pop up associated with 2K/XP, then there is the refresh rate
issue....all in
> > all as far as a *** OS. ME with the system restore disabled is KING.

> > Remember to enable  DMA on your drives and set a static swap file.

> I bow to your superior knowledge

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> "The Pits" http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> --Groucho Marx--

Schum

Screw XP; 98 or ME?

by Schum » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 04:24:27

And finally some words of wisdom from the thread :))

Dump the consumer based OSes MS produces (XP, ME, 98, 95)

The only REAL OS MS ever put out was Windows 2000. They digressed after
that...

Windows 2000 is the ONLY MS OS that even comes within spitting distance of
my network(s), otherwise its a BSD flavor. All my games run exceptional on
my Win2000 systems (except Superbike 2001... but oh well... it don't work on
XP either...).

I could not in good conscience recommend win98 or ME. Save yourself the
hassles... go 2000.

Cheers,
Schumi


> Windows 2000 Professional! The only option for upper end machines that
> don't want to run Win98SE.

> SLG


> >After the troubles Alison Hine (and others) have had with XP installs,
I'm
> >not going to upgrade to Bill Gates' latest booty-booster after all.

> >The only question left: 98 or ME?

> (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
> and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
> due to too many English classes/teachers)

pjgt..

Screw XP; 98 or ME?

by pjgt.. » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 04:46:36



> After the troubles Alison Hine (and others) have had with XP installs,
> I'm
> not going to upgrade to Bill Gates' latest booty-booster after all.

> The only question left: 98 or ME?

I use Win98SE here (on my hand built pc) and it works fine with no
problems at all (I have the occasional hardware problem, but thats another
story!)

All my games and programs work fine with SE.

I have also hand built three pcs for other people over the last two years
and they also have Win 98SE installed and I've had no problesm with those
either.

I've heard horror stories about ME and Win2k and XP so I'll stay with 98SE
for now thanx.

8-)

*Peter* -  http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/

Tim Mise

Screw XP; 98 or ME?

by Tim Mise » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:13:41

If you disable system restore you might as well use 98se.  System Restore is
the best reason to use Me and I'd recommend Me myself because of the better
networking AND system restore.

-Tim

P.S. - Don't believe the myth that system restore creates restore points in
the middle of using your computer and causes it to slow down.  That is
false!  It'll use up disk space but disk space is a cheap price in exchange
of what system restore can do for you.


> "Its a crappy gna gna" So many pseudo experts in this newsgroup *YAWN*

> In answer to your question. I recommend that you use ME and then disable
the
> system restore option under the system icon in your control panel, also
you
> will get an updated plug and play database that works very well and a
TCP/IP
> stack that performs much much better then 98.

> In GPL for instance on identical machines (three tested so far) GPL is 15
to
> 20% faster under 9X also if you use a Soundblaster live you won't get the
> pop up associated with 2K/XP, then there is the refresh rate issue....all
in
> all as far as a *** OS. ME with the system restore disabled is KING.

> Remember to enable  DMA on your drives and set a static swap file.





> > > After the troubles Alison Hine (and others) have had with XP installs,
> I'm
> > > not going to upgrade to Bill Gates' latest booty-booster after all.

> > > The only question left: 98 or ME?

> > Never had a single problem with XP pro. IMO its been the best OS out of
> > Micro$oft yet. The only real negitive is that registration crap. IMO an
OS
> > is just like a game. If you put it on two little hardware its not gonna
> run
> > for shit. Now I missed Alison's problems, but from her router thread I
got
> > the feeling that her hardware is not all that new.

> > MadDAWG

Tim Mise

Screw XP; 98 or ME?

by Tim Mise » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:08:58

What kind of problems would you have with Me?



> > ME works fine here, always have. And it's a homebuilt system aswell.

> Like Achim you ought to make your system available to MS engineers,
> they're dying to find out how you did that :-)

> Seriously though, small OEM builders like us stopped offering ME as an
> OS alternative a long time ago, too much hassle, we still offer W98SE,
> the support and warranty work was way out of proportion, especially
> since there was little or nothing wrong with the hardware in the first
> place

> If we built 5 identical systems I could almost guarantee you that at
> least one of them would have issues, yet if you installed a different
> OS, Win98/2000/XP/NT4/95 or whatever without changing a thing, the PC
> would be as reliable as the next PC and no matter what kind of "burn in"
> program or test program you'd run it would report back that the system
> was fine, go figure

> I'm not doubting that a lot of people run ME just fine, it's just that
> it's caused us a hell of a lot work in the past with PC's that are
> basically ok, except for the OS :-)

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> --Groucho Marx--


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