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Vinc

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by Vinc » Mon, 07 Feb 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:22:56 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell"


>Bandini was 100% DEAD before his body was removed from the Ferrari.
>Get a copy of Louis Stanley's recent book (can't think of the name of it
>now): it includes an horrific photo of Bandini's corpse in the car.

Sure ? I always read that he died 3 days after the crash
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μartij

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by μartij » Mon, 07 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Correct, he was still alive, and his crying and screaming was sound proof
of that. It must have been hell....



> On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:22:56 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell"

> >Bandini was 100% DEAD before his body was removed from the Ferrari.
> >Get a copy of Louis Stanley's recent book (can't think of the name of it
> >now): it includes an horrific photo of Bandini's corpse in the car.

> Sure ? I always read that he died 3 days after the crash

Robert Grave

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by Robert Grave » Mon, 07 Feb 2000 04:00:00

And that Monaco GP was the first ever that I saw.  It was on Wide World of
Sports, I was a kid, and its still fresh in my memory.  Come to think of it,
why is it that such an horrific, tragic and regrettable accident happened on
the same day that I discovered my most favourite sport, by far ?
--
Robert Gravel

http://pages.infinit.net/robertg/index.htm


> Correct, he was still alive, and his crying and screaming was sound proof
> of that. It must have been hell....



> > On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:22:56 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell"

> > >Bandini was 100% DEAD before his body was removed from the Ferrari.
> > >Get a copy of Louis Stanley's recent book (can't think of the name of
it
> > >now): it includes an horrific photo of Bandini's corpse in the car.

> > Sure ? I always read that he died 3 days after the crash

μartij

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by μartij » Mon, 07 Feb 2000 04:00:00

You tell me....
I hear of a lot of people who only gained interest in F1-racing after 1st.
May 1994. Perhaps it is the fine line between a casual observer of the
sport or just a little more interest that keeps to your mind...

I dunno. I wasn't one of them.



> And that Monaco GP was the first ever that I saw.  It was on Wide World
of
> Sports, I was a kid, and its still fresh in my memory.  Come to think of
it,
> why is it that such an horrific, tragic and regrettable accident happened
on
> the same day that I discovered my most favourite sport, by far ?
> --
> Robert Gravel

> http://pages.infinit.net/robertg/index.htm




Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Tue, 08 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I draw your attention once again to the photo in the Louis Stanley book.  If
Lorenzo was alive when this was taken then such "life" must have been the
merest thread. Any crying and screaming was well and truly finished.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> Correct, he was still alive, and his crying and screaming was sound proof
> of that. It must have been hell....



> > On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:22:56 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell"

> > >Bandini was 100% DEAD before his body was removed from the Ferrari.
> > >Get a copy of Louis Stanley's recent book (can't think of the name of
it
> > >now): it includes an horrific photo of Bandini's corpse in the car.

> > Sure ? I always read that he died 3 days after the crash

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Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Tue, 08 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I asked an acquaintance for, and received tonight, some additional info
regarding Lorenzo's accident and can advise that yes, he WAS "clinically
alive" when Louis Stanley took that ghastly photo of him in the burnt car.
The horrifying thing is that everyone thought he was dead and it wasn't
until his "body" was being removed (just seconds after the picture was
taken) that a spark of life was detected.
Lorenzo never regained conciousness and died somewhere between two and three
days after the incident.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> I draw your attention once again to the photo in the Louis Stanley book.
If
> Lorenzo was alive when this was taken then such "life" must have been the
> merest thread. Any crying and screaming was well and truly finished.

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------




> > Correct, he was still alive, and his crying and screaming was sound
proof
> > of that. It must have been hell....



> > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:22:56 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell"

> > > >Bandini was 100% DEAD before his body was removed from the Ferrari.
> > > >Get a copy of Louis Stanley's recent book (can't think of the name of
> it
> > > >now): it includes an horrific photo of Bandini's corpse in the car.

> > > Sure ? I always read that he died 3 days after the crash

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Chris Bloo

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by Chris Bloo » Tue, 08 Feb 2000 04:00:00

When I first started watching GP racing in 1981, Gilles
Villeneuve was my hero (I had seen his famous lap on 3 wheels at
Zandvoort a couple of years earlier).

Sadly he perished at the fifth race of the 82 season, at that
point i knew something had been stolen from the sport and I
still regret that accident ever happened.

Chris

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rubini

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by rubini » Tue, 08 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Lorenzo Bandini died three days after his accident (10/5/1967 Monte-carlo
hospital, race was held on 7/5/67) but there was no chance of recovery for
him as he was dreadfully charred and burnt (must have been hell) if the
rescue team had been quicker who knows how his career would have turned out,
he was definetly obne of the monaco masters.
I am one of those people who became interested in not only f1 but motorsport
in 1994 after Imola, this was the first motorsport i had seen (i was about 8
or 9) (i actually listened to the race bon the radio, i can remember what i
was doing in the aftermath of the accident in detail, I onkly got the
courage up to watch the crash about 6 months ago and refuse to see video's
of fatal accidents, i did however see Neil Shanahans fatal accident at
oulton park last year which has also had an effect on me. This had such a
deep impact on me that ive watched f1 and motorsport eversince. Senna's
death opened up F1 to even those who had not been interested in the sport at
all. I put senna as my hero even though i have never seen him race.
maybe i am just an emotional person i dont know.

Rubinio


> I draw your attention once again to the photo in the Louis Stanley book.
If
> Lorenzo was alive when this was taken then such "life" must have been the
> merest thread. Any crying and screaming was well and truly finished.

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------




> > Correct, he was still alive, and his crying and screaming was sound
proof
> > of that. It must have been hell....



> > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:22:56 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell"

> > > >Bandini was 100% DEAD before his body was removed from the Ferrari.
> > > >Get a copy of Louis Stanley's recent book (can't think of the name of
> it
> > > >now): it includes an horrific photo of Bandini's corpse in the car.

> > > Sure ? I always read that he died 3 days after the crash

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Olaf

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by Olaf » Tue, 08 Feb 2000 04:00:00



> And that Monaco GP was the first ever that I saw.  It was on Wide World of
> Sports, I was a kid, and its still fresh in my memory.  Come to think of it,
> why is it that such an horrific, tragic and regrettable accident happened on
> the same day that I discovered my most favourite sport, by far ?
> --
> Robert Gravel

> http://pages.infinit.net/robertg/index.htm


>> Correct, he was still alive, and his crying and screaming was sound proof
>> of that. It must have been hell....



>>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:22:56 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell"

>>>> Bandini was 100% DEAD before his body was removed from the Ferrari.
>>>> Get a copy of Louis Stanley's recent book (can't think of the name of
> it
>>>> now): it includes an horrific photo of Bandini's corpse in the car.

>>> Sure ? I always read that he died 3 days after the crash

I was 9 years old when I watched My first GP. It was in 1978 at Monza. I saw
it on TV. It was one of the most horrifying things to see when I was 9 years
old. It's not important when he died but how he died. As I look to those
photo's I still see that black burning Lotus.

Olaf

Gary Stephenso

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by Gary Stephenso » Sun, 13 Feb 2000 04:00:00


> When I first started watching GP racing in 1981, Gilles
> Villeneuve was my hero (I had seen his famous lap on 3 wheels at
> Zandvoort a couple of years earlier).

> Sadly he perished at the fifth race of the 82 season, at that
> point i knew something had been stolen from the sport and I
> still regret that accident ever happened.

> Chris

I remember watching Villeneuve at Long Beach that year(on ABC's Wide
World of Sports) and seeing him totally overcook a sharp corner at the
end of a long straight. He did a 4 wheel lockup stop into the corner
run-off without hitting any tires, then he does a reverse burnout and
just makes a cloud of smoke, and somewhere inside that cloud he shifts
into first gear and continues the pyrotechnics through the corner! I've
been trying to emulate his driving style my entire *** life...and have
the tickets to prove it!!! Who says kids aren't impressionable?

Gary

Graeme Nas

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by Graeme Nas » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Yep, Long Beach '82, I have the 1982 season review video (along with all
the others!), and Clive James' commentary on that race in particular is
brilliant :-)

--
Cheers!
Graeme Nash

David

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by David » Mon, 14 Feb 2000 04:00:00



The first GP I ever watched was Monaco '86. I knew nothing about F1,
and only tuned in after urging from school friends, but was hooked at
once. When I read some back copies of Motor Sport I'd been lent, there
was one man who fascinated me, and who I really wanted to see go to
the top. I shouted for him all through the race (until he retired on
about lap 30). "Never mind," I thought. "He'll come back stronger in
Belgium".

His name was Elio de Angelis.

What a stupid, disgraceful loss.
--
David.
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Gary Stephenso

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by Gary Stephenso » Tue, 15 Feb 2000 04:00:00


> I think you are referring to the battle he was having with
> Rosberg in the normally aspirated Williams, Villenueve in the
> Ferrari would blast past the Willaims on the Straight and
> Rosberg would muscle his way back through the twisty sections,
> until GV was a bit too late on the brakes and caused the
> incident mentioned above.

> Chris

I wonder if Rosberg did one of his infamous "brake tests" on Villenueve.

Gary

Gary Stephenso

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by Gary Stephenso » Thu, 17 Feb 2000 04:00:00


> Apparently, Gilles drove road cars this way, too.  In Professor Sid
> Watkins' interesting book, "Triumph and Tragedy in Formula One", he
> describes a time when he was a passenger in a rental car driven by
> Villeneuve. Villeneuve's wife lay down on the floor in the back seat in
> sheer terror (and she supposedly did this every time she rode with Gilles).
> Watkins said that Villeneuve returned the rental car a couple of days later
> and it was a complete wreck.

Thats a great story. I'll definately look for the book!

Thanks,

Gary


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