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The REAL Indy Racing League simulation...

Scott Moo

The REAL Indy Racing League simulation...

by Scott Moo » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 06:32:56

Just imagine- you want realism?

You fire it up, and are greeted by a grating crash and the crackle of
flames...and, of course, a black screen to simulate the loss of
conciousness. The darkness clears, offering a view of a clear blue sky
and the faces of the ambulance crew strapping you to the stretcher.
The clouds whiz by as the wheel you rapidly across the tarmac,
followed by the awesome sight of the underside of an ambulance roof.
Sirens and engine sounds sampled from real life emergency equipment
highlight the trip to the medical center, where you're presented with
an immersive experience- several trauma doctors were enlisted to make
sure this part was just right.

Depending on the injury (purely random, using a 266 Mhz number
generator. Could be a broken back, a fractured leg, even a badly
broken pelvis!)the simulation moves on to the exciting part: Watching
non-IRL drivers racing on TV for up to a year!

Maybe work in a cheat code to have AJ Foyt toss his paperweight..errr,
laptop at you, too...what potential this has!

I simply cannot believe that drivers I used to respect are stupid
enough to strap into those crapwagons...at the rate they go, I imagine
I'll be getting a call from Penske by the end of the year.

gddd

The REAL Indy Racing League simulation...

by gddd » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 02:01:05

And the difference between IRL and CART in terms of safety is?  But you know
what, IRL has the better safety team.  And, doesn't CART race at 240 mph in
California?  Come on, you hate the IRL, but the two series are the same in
terms of dangers involved.

PS  How many drivers have died in IRL cars?  Compare that to CART and then
think about making comments like these.  Not to mention injuries suffered by
drivers in both series.

PSS  Racing is a dangerous sport, doesn't matter the vehicle.


Matt Knutse

The REAL Indy Racing League simulation...

by Matt Knutse » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 04:01:15



Humm, how many drivers have died in CART since the IRL started? How many
serious injuries have there been in both classes?

If I remember correctly, the IRL had to invest serious research because of
an overly stiff rear end on the cars which didn't crumple enough.

Anyway, yes, they're both very dangerous classes, and personally I'm just
waiting for a nightmare "over-the-fence" crash killing x spectators.

They both provide some excellent racing though! :)

/Matt

gddd

The REAL Indy Racing League simulation...

by gddd » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 04:27:50

Two drivers (off the top of my head) have died in CART since the inception
of the IRL.




> > And the difference between IRL and CART in terms of safety is?  But you
> know
> > what, IRL has the better safety team.  And, doesn't CART race at 240 mph
> in
> > California?  Come on, you hate the IRL, but the two series are the same
in
> > terms of dangers involved.

> > PS  How many drivers have died in IRL cars?  Compare that to CART and
then
> > think about making comments like these.  Not to mention injuries
suffered
> by
> > drivers in both series.

> Humm, how many drivers have died in CART since the IRL started? How many
> serious injuries have there been in both classes?

> If I remember correctly, the IRL had to invest serious research because of
> an overly stiff rear end on the cars which didn't crumple enough.

> Anyway, yes, they're both very dangerous classes, and personally I'm just
> waiting for a nightmare "over-the-fence" crash killing x spectators.

> They both provide some excellent racing though! :)

> /Matt

Scott Moo

The REAL Indy Racing League simulation...

by Scott Moo » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:20:48


> And the difference between IRL and CART in terms of safety is?  But you know
> what, IRL has the better safety team.  And, doesn't CART race at 240 mph in
> California?  Come on, you hate the IRL, but the two series are the same in
> terms of dangers involved.

I hardly think there's a better safety team in the world than th eone
that saved Zanardi, but that's pure speculation.  And yes, they do
race on ovals- and don't have somone carted off with multiple
fractures every time. Granted, there HAVE been deaths in CART, but the
last few have been due to complete freak incidents. In the crapwagons,
a driver is carted off on a backboard seemingly every time they race.
Take a tally over the past few years, and you'll see how the IRLers
are injured far more often than in other series. I bet they're close
to a doxen already this year- and those are only the ones that caused
the driver to miss a start or more. Want me to dig up the numbers and
compare? I'm sure they keep records someplace...

Fact remains, racing those type cars on ovals is idiotic. I'd be all
for CART dropping the ovals, too, so it's not simple bias....it's a
pure crapshoot as to when we'll have a LeMans type incident here, and
that's the end of any more open wheelers at all.

> PS  How many drivers have died in IRL cars?  Compare that to CART and then
> think about making comments like these.  Not to mention injuries suffered by
> drivers in both series.

> PSS  Racing is a dangerous sport, doesn't matter the vehicle.



> > Just imagine- you want realism?

> > You fire it up, and are greeted by a grating crash and the crackle of
> > flames...and, of course, a black screen to simulate the loss of
> > conciousness. The darkness clears, offering a view of a clear blue sky
> > and the faces of the ambulance crew strapping you to the stretcher.
> > The clouds whiz by as the wheel you rapidly across the tarmac,
> > followed by the awesome sight of the underside of an ambulance roof.
> > Sirens and engine sounds sampled from real life emergency equipment
> > highlight the trip to the medical center, where you're presented with
> > an immersive experience- several trauma doctors were enlisted to make
> > sure this part was just right.

> > Depending on the injury (purely random, using a 266 Mhz number
> > generator. Could be a broken back, a fractured leg, even a badly
> > broken pelvis!)the simulation moves on to the exciting part: Watching
> > non-IRL drivers racing on TV for up to a year!

> > Maybe work in a cheat code to have AJ Foyt toss his paperweight..errr,
> > laptop at you, too...what potential this has!

> > I simply cannot believe that drivers I used to respect are stupid
> > enough to strap into those crapwagons...at the rate they go, I imagine
> > I'll be getting a call from Penske by the end of the year.

Jason Moy

The REAL Indy Racing League simulation...

by Jason Moy » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:21:49


>Two drivers (off the top of my head) have died in CART since the inception
>of the IRL.

Moore and... ?

Jason

J.D. Elli

The REAL Indy Racing League simulation...

by J.D. Elli » Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:27:38


>>Two drivers (off the top of my head) have died in CART since the inception
>>of the IRL.

> Moore and... ?

Gonzalo Rodriguez (name ?) driving for Penske at Laguna Seca in '99.

(Paging Dave Henrie...we have an open wheel holy war thread, we need
your services...) ;-)

-jde

Jason Moy

The REAL Indy Racing League simulation...

by Jason Moy » Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:31:38

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:27:38 -0400, "J.D. Ellis"



>>>Two drivers (off the top of my head) have died in CART since the inception
>>>of the IRL.

>> Moore and... ?

>Gonzalo Rodriguez (name ?) driving for Penske at Laguna Seca in '99.

Pow, that's right, thanks.  I knew Krosnoff was before the split but I
kinda thought there was someone who I forgot...

Jason

Jonathan Van Ginneke

The REAL Indy Racing League simulation...

by Jonathan Van Ginneke » Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:20:45

Scott Brayton died in the IRL, and Sam Schmidt was horribly injured, not to
mention all the broken backs....it's racing it's tough...pissing matches are
stupid.

that said, the simplegreen safety team, or whatever they are now, is
extremely good, they saved Zanardi's life...don't question that, F1 isn't
even on par with them.

jonathan


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