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Does anyone know when Intel is due to do their next round of price cuts
(I have heard it may be August) and what CPUs they are lowering?

I need to get a P166 for GP2 - the waiting is not fun!

: Does anyone know when Intel is due to do their next round of price cuts
: (I have heard it may be August) and what CPUs they are lowering?

: I need to get a P166 for GP2 - the waiting is not fun!
I heard August 1st.  My boss said he tried to order a PC and they told him to
wait until August 1st; apparently they had stopped manufacturing, or slowed it
down, until the big price cuts are announced.

-Scott

According to PC Week magazine, Intel quarterly price cuts will be August
1. to wholesale dealers.  (with savings passed onto consumers appropriately.)

They are expected to be as follows:

        CPU             Clock           Old Price       New Price

        Pentium         75              $105            $105
                        100             $134            $105
                        120             $188            $135
                        133             $257            $205
                        150             $364            $300
                        166             $498            $400
                        200             $N/A            $510

Pentium Pro prices will also drop as well.  (I'm not listing them here
because DOS does not run faster on a PPro.)
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Thanks for the accurate information.

This is a common misunderstanding. DOS itself has nothing to do with it,
it is the program itself that is 32 bit or not (and can benefit from a
PPro or not). Most programs today are still written as 16
bit-programs (some people think they are programming in 32 bit because
they tell their compiler to use 386/486-instructions, but they use 16
bit-integers as the default type of integer -to give an example).

/Scott
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Scott Marison, Software Engineer
Sierra On-Line/Papyrus Division

: This is a common misunderstanding. DOS itself has nothing to do with it,
: it is the program itself that is 32 bit or not (and can benefit from a
: PPro or not). Most programs today are still written as 16
: bit-programs (some people think they are programming in 32 bit because
: they tell their compiler to use 386/486-instructions, but they use 16
: bit-integers as the default type of integer -to give an example).
this is not true.
most programs today are developed using Watcom C/C++ or the dos port of
GCC (DJGPP or something?)..  these are true 32 bit programs.  I haven't
seen a non-extended program released in many months.

i'm wondering if the ppro has a problem allowing programs which run
through a dos extender to be treated as 100% true 32bit programs... i know
there is a bit of a gateway, ie the dos disk access interrupts called
from a 32bit app are often passed to 16bit ISRs by the dos extender.

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Carlos Ribas
President
MalSoft
http://www.nol.net/~draconis

DOS yes, but not necessarily applications coded for DOS. I've been
comparing a P-Pro/200 with a P5-200, and the P-Pro is almost invariably
slower, at least until fastvid is introduced, wehn it closes most of the
gap.

On Quake for example, the P-Pro is HALF the speed of the Pentium.

Cheers!
John
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Not necessarily, even GP2 isn't a "true 32-bit program". There is 16-bit
code there also.

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Dave - currently not racing because of a crashed 4GB hard-drive in my
P5 120 :(.