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by **Olav K. Malm** » Wed, 30 May 2001 08:11:23

> Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about draft crashes or other
> understandable ACCIDENTS, what I am referring to is someone waiting
> down on the apron for you to come by then slices directly in front of
> you.. ON PURPOSE. Then they just laugh about it and say how cool it
> is.
> This is enough for me to put this game away and never bother with any
> future incarnations as well.

Hehe, Two days ago a guy driving the PACE CAR wrecked everyone, but
somehow he got engine failure and had to retire.

I guess we will have this problem until around september when school
starts again, the wreckers will be fed up by then.

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by **ymenar** » Wed, 30 May 2001 08:16:50

>WHat we need is one simple thing.

Make it easy for people who PURPOSELY wreck others get banned.
It wouldn't be hard to implement.
If there incident rate gets to low (in others words, they crash to
often) then they are banned for the day.

Hey you race *pickup* races. People still do that? Serious pickup racing
died the day the NROS closed. Assume the risks that you take, it's
free-for-all there. Rankings are just a little blessing for the few of you
who still care about such form of stockcar racing. We've all moved onto
leagues.

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by **Alan Bernard** » Wed, 30 May 2001 08:50:35

Gun,

Two words-- password protect. If you don't do that, you only have yourself
to blame. Making any attempt to rid N4 of these wreckers is futile. In the
end, everyone will password protect their games and the wreckers will be
wrecking each other. Jailers with jailers: wreckers with wreckers: so be
it.

Alanb

by **Eldre** » Wed, 30 May 2001 11:31:07

>Hey you race *pickup* races. People still do that? Serious pickup racing
>died the day the NROS closed. Assume the risks that you take, it's
>free-for-all there. Rankings are just a little blessing for the few of you
>who still care about such form of stockcar racing. We've all moved onto
>leagues.

People have suggested passworded races, or league races(which are also
passworded). But, how does an 'outsider' even get INTO these races, when they
don't know the password(or the host of the race)?

Eldred
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by **Thom j** » Wed, 30 May 2001 12:14:58

Alan [A] you cant password protect unless you host or [B] know of a
host that is using a passworded race... Sadly [A] I'm not aloud to host
via my server & if I get caught I lose my cable and [B] I haven't found
a good passworded server that will just let me in & this is their option!

Most of the so called "Good 'Ole Boyz" have their own click' & they
are Extremely! 'tight-lipped' about their races! Also the other servers
want your first born before you are aloud in & to some degree I can
understand cuz I know this shit I go thru now with these open races!

| Two words-- password protect. If you don't do that, you only have
yourself
| to blame. Making any attempt to rid N4 of these wreckers is futile. In
the
| end, everyone will password protect their games and the wreckers will be
| wrecking each other. Jailers with jailers: wreckers with wreckers: so be
| it.
| Alanb

by **Thom j** » Wed, 30 May 2001 12:54:59

God Bless'Ya & Ah` Amen Child!! Dat' just what I just posted in
my other re-post to ya.:o) What does Frankie know anywayz..lol

passworded races, or league races(which are also
| passworded). But, how does an 'outsider' even get INTO these races, when
they
| don't know the password(or the host of the race)?

by **Kendt Eklu** » Wed, 30 May 2001 15:31:58

Exactly - what about the people who just don't have the time for a
league, or simply aren't that good. Kicking/banning has been a
mainstay of FPS server admins, and there's no reason it couldn't be
implemented in N4 (you do need a valid, unique key to go online, don't
you? - there's how you identify people you want kicked/banned). I
want to run a server for us slowpoke racers who may wreck a little
more often (sort of an online IRL ;)...), but would like to be able to
ban anyone who gets on and tries to deliberately wreck others.

Kendt

by **Kendt Eklu** » Wed, 30 May 2001 15:39:12

Yikes! Is this your cable service or something? A server isn't that
bandwidth intensive, is it?
Stay tuned, when I have ISDN soon there'll be a server. I'm thinking
of maybe setting up a mailing list and changing passwords regularly.
When a wrecker shows up (or someone not on the mailing list), I'll
change the password (and remove the wrecker from the list).
Maybe a semi-open server (can you do this like you can in VROC, where
admins with password acces can change the race parameters?).
Going to read the N4 docs/readme...

Kendt

by **Olav K. Malm** » Wed, 30 May 2001 16:17:07

> > Sadly [A] I'm not aloud to host
> >via my server & if I get caught I lose my cable and

> Yikes! Is this your cable service or something? A server isn't that
> bandwidth intensive, is it?
> Stay tuned, when I have ISDN soon there'll be a server. I'm thinking
> of maybe setting up a mailing list and changing passwords regularly.
> When a wrecker shows up (or someone not on the mailing list), I'll
> change the password (and remove the wrecker from the list).
> Maybe a semi-open server (can you do this like you can in VROC, where
> admins with password acces can change the race parameters?).
> Going to read the N4 docs/readme...

Sounds like a very good idea. Kind of like the VROC F2 club which to
my information just race passworded races without all the league
hassle. I do want to race pw-races, but I don't have the time and
commitment for a championship league.

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by **Alan Bernard** » Wed, 30 May 2001 19:19:24

That's it. You find a group or develop a group of your own to race with and
be done with the rest of it. Don't know about that cable stuff, but I'd be
changing services (if I could) if my cable company told me something like
that. Sounds quite absurd and maybe even against the law. I'd challenge
it.

Anyhow, hope you find some decent races.

Later,

Alanb

by **Chris Not** » Wed, 30 May 2001 21:23:46

Hang out in chat and on the web. Do some web searches for N4 leagues, looke
for email addresses, write to folks and ask to join their leagues, hang out
here in r.a.s., post messages in forums.

"Knock and it shall be opened." Keep knocking. Don't quit.

Chris Noto, see Noto at tee dee ess dot net

by **Gaul** » Thu, 31 May 2001 01:15:52

> >WHat we need is one simple thing.
> Make it easy for people who PURPOSELY wreck others get banned.
> It wouldn't be hard to implement.
> If there incident rate gets to low (in others words, they crash to
> often) then they are banned for the day.

> Hey you race *pickup* races. People still do that? Serious pickup racing
> died the day the NROS closed. Assume the risks that you take, it's
> free-for-all there.

I realize that, but for those of us who can't commit to league racing due to
scheduling or time constraints, pick-up races are the best we can do. I'd
like to see something done to try and ban repeat offenders from the servers.
Probably impossible I realize, but there are brighter minds than mine out
there who might have a solution.

by **Uncle Feste** » Thu, 31 May 2001 01:21:22

> Hey you race *pickup* races. People still do that? Serious pickup racing
> died the day the NROS closed. Assume the risks that you take, it's
> free-for-all there. Rankings are just a little blessing for the few of you
> who still care about such form of stockcar racing. We've all moved onto
> leagues.

Don't tell Nim Cross that serious pick-up racing is dead. I've seen him
numerous times at Bristol & the like. Some of the old Legends still
participate in pick-up races.

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by **ymenar** » Thu, 31 May 2001 01:49:46

> Don't tell Nim Cross that serious pick-up racing is dead. I've seen him
> numerous times at Bristol & the like. Some of the old Legends still
> participate in pick-up races.

Nim races with Speedo, that's different

(inside joke LOL)
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by **ymenar** » Thu, 31 May 2001 01:51:32

> I realize that, but for those of us who can't commit to league racing due
to
> scheduling or time constraints, pick-up races are the best we can do. I'd
> like to see something done to try and ban repeat offenders from the
servers.
> Probably impossible I realize, but there are brighter minds than mine out
> there who might have a solution.

We've all passed by that Gault. After the NROS closed, most of us created
our own time and we had the possibility to race in leagues. If you can't
have this possibility, I'm sorry because you are trully missing where the
real action is :(

Serious pickup racing is *dead* since the day the NROS closed.

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