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by **David Ewin** » Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:00:00

> Actually, trail braking doesn't mean you actually have to use the brake.

Huh?

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by **Liutger Franze** » Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:00:00

what do you use instead? motor braking? I don't recommend motor braking
- it's just like adjusting your brake-bias a lot to the rear - you just
don't want this as the cars understeers if you are lucky and spins when
it loose grip at the backend if you're not ...

Lio

by **GTX_SlotCa** » Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I hate it when I can't find old URLs. There was an excellent series on this
by a (real) GT3 driver, including quizes about entering compound corners
etc. based on Viper Racing tracks. One thing he warned about was abusing
trail braking. There is a time to use it, but not often. I remember this
well because I used it extensively in MTM2. He did a good job explaining
trail braking, and yes, it doesn't actually mean you have to apply brakes.
One quote from him that I'll never forget, "the fastest way to go slow is to
brake too late".

You're going into the corner kinda hot. The idea is to aid in setting your
car's angle for a faster exit or the next corner.

Slot

by **GTX_SlotCa** » Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:00:00

With single axis, applying brake when the gas is applied is the same as
letting your foot off the gas. You are simply turning down the
potentiometer. You need split axis to apply both forces at the same time.
You may feel you have better control by applying the brake and gas at the
same time, but its no different as far as the signal being sent to the game.
As I said, trail braking doesn't mean you actually have to apply the brake,
and in fact, you are not. But you are still trail braking. (trail
decelerating)
With split axis you can apply both forces at the same time. I'm sure you
know the advantages to that.

Slot

> > Actually, trail braking doesn't mean you actually have to use the brake.

> Huh?

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by **Cossi** » Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:00:00

It will only be an advantage if you trailbrake or drive with the left foot on the brake pedal...

>With single axis, applying brake when the gas is applied is the same as
>letting your foot off the gas. You are simply turning down the
>potentiometer. You need split axis to apply both forces at the same time.
>You may feel you have better control by applying the brake and gas at the
>same time, but its no different as far as the signal being sent to the game.
>As I said, trail braking doesn't mean you actually have to apply the brake,
>and in fact, you are not. But you are still trail braking. (trail
>decelerating)
>With split axis you can apply both forces at the same time. I'm sure you
>know the advantages to that.

>Slot

>> > Actually, trail braking doesn't mean you actually have to use the brake.

>> Huh?

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by **Liutger Franze** » Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:00:00

this technique is ok for rally cars, but you have to be very skilled to
use it with these old grand prix cars. I tried this late braking and
sliding technique at the hugenholtzbocht/zandvoort in GPL lately and
when it works, you really gain half a second, but it only works right
every some laps ...

Lio

by **Sami Nurme** » Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:00:00

>> Here's the best tip you'll ever get: Buy a decent wheel with some
>> split-axis pedals :)

>i have the same wheel mentioned earlier (TM Formula Sprint over here
>in the UK). it was a fairly simple operation to hack the internal
>wiring about a bit with a soldering iron to give me a three axis
>wheel: steering, brakes, and the loud pedal.

>so, you now know what to do when your guarantee runs out!

Huh? I thought Thrustmaster Formula Sprint had separate axis already.
Check it out by defining your own settings in Control Panel for three-axis
joystick; brake and throttle pedals work on separate axis. It's the
Thrustmaster's driver software that combines them on y-axis.

(I may be wrong; it's been some time I used my TM, but I think I got separate
axis on both Sprint w/CH Pedals and with Sprint pedals).
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