what CPU would be needed to max out the graphic settings at 1024x768, at
4x FSAA in Glide (or D3D) and still get maximum framerate in a full
field race.
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks.
--
Bert
> what CPU would be needed to max out the graphic settings at 1024x768, at
> 4x FSAA in Glide (or D3D) and still get maximum framerate in a full
> field race.
> Any thoughts on this?
> Thanks.
> --
> Bert
> > I just installed a Voodoo5 in my system. Although I'm very pleased with
> > it's performance, I find that I still cannot max out the graphics
> > settings in GPL at 1024x768 and pin the framerate at the max of 36.
> > what CPU would be needed to max out the graphic settings at 1024x768, at
> > 4x FSAA in Glide (or D3D) and still get maximum framerate in a full
> > field race.
> > Any thoughts on this?
> > Thanks.
> > --
> > Bert
If your fps are low even at a low resolution, THEN you need a processor
upgrade. You might want to look into a Geforce 3 if you want to do 4XFSAA
at 1024X768
> > Your problem isn't the CPU. Running a res of 1024X768 with 4XFSAA is
the
> > same a running 2048X1536 with no FSAA. Not many video cards can handle
> > that. Try 2XFSAA and see if it helps.
know
> > > what CPU would be needed to max out the graphic settings at 1024x768,
at
> > > 4x FSAA in Glide (or D3D) and still get maximum framerate in a full
> > > field race.
> > > Any thoughts on this?
> > > Thanks.
> > > --
> > > Bert
> --
> Bert
> >If your fps are low even at a low resolution, THEN you need a processor
> >upgrade. You might want to look into a Geforce 3 if you want to do
4XFSAA
> >at 1024X768
> Yep, 4X FSAA should be doable on the GF3 in any game.
SLG
>> On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:41:46 -0800, "Kirk House"
>> >If your fps are low even at a low resolution, THEN you need a processor
>> >upgrade. You might want to look into a Geforce 3 if you want to do
>4XFSAA
>> >at 1024X768
>> Yep, 4X FSAA should be doable on the GF3 in any game.
The past month I have been running GPL on my other slower computer and
it does very poorly. I will be swapping the computers really soon.
SLG
>> Oh how odd, my computer a P3-850 with GeForce2 GTS 32MB runs 1280*1024
>> with everything on except arms, and the detail slider all the way to
>> the right, at a constant 36FPS, without FSAA. So what are you talking
>> about?
>> SLG
My current CPU is a P3-650, but I'd still expect to be closer to the
performance of your PC, particularly if yours is a P3-850. Based on my
3dmark 2000 score I think my system is setup pretty good (plus a friend with
a GF2/Athlon700 gets the same numbers I get). Is there anything you can
think of that might explain the difference, like have you changed the
mip-map LOD bias, or changed the d3d v-sync setting? Also which Det3
drivers are you using (I use 6.50) ?
I guess if your other machine was a P3-1000 that might explain it, since
that is 44.5% faster than a P3-650, which is really quite a lot.
The Ring is surprisingly slower than Monaco for race starts. Running the
test I described I get 20/21 fps at Monaco and 17 fps at the Ring.
Anyway, the point still stands, that when I upgraded from a V3 3000 AGP to a
GF2 GTS (32MB), GPL definitely got slower, whereas every other game got
considerably faster. Since N4 runs like a dream under D3D on my system, the
poor performance of GPL would have to be down to the D3D renderer for GPL.
You're lucky enough to have a system that can cope with it I guess.
Needless to say, you don't need a P3-1000 to guarantee 36 fps with Glide.
> The past month I have been running GPL on my other slower computer and
> it does very poorly. I will be swapping the computers really soon.
> SLG
> >Go run a race start at the Ring with 19 opponents from in-car view at the
> >back of the grid and see if the frame rate stays at 36 fps for the whole
> >race start, including just after the flag drops. I'd really like to
know.
> >> Oh how odd, my computer a P3-850 with GeForce2 GTS 32MB runs 1280*1024
> >> with everything on except arms, and the detail slider all the way to
> >> the right, at a constant 36FPS, without FSAA. So what are you talking
> >> about?
> >> SLG
> (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
> and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
> due to too many English classes/teachers)
I am using the Det 3 6.31 drivers here at work (1GHz & TNT2) with the
V-sinc always off in the advanced properties with the coolbits
registry fix available here:
http://3dchipset.com/utilities/nvidia/overclocking/coolbits/index.html
I found that GPL is more responsive to CPU upgrades than just video
upgrades, but then again, that experience is mainly with Nvidia
adapters the only Voodoo I have used it with is a Voodoo2 and it has
problems with lockups/Heat!
SLG
>My current CPU is a P3-650, but I'd still expect to be closer to the
>performance of your PC, particularly if yours is a P3-850. Based on my
>3dmark 2000 score I think my system is setup pretty good (plus a friend with
>a GF2/Athlon700 gets the same numbers I get). Is there anything you can
>think of that might explain the difference, like have you changed the
>mip-map LOD bias, or changed the d3d v-sync setting? Also which Det3
>drivers are you using (I use 6.50) ?
>I guess if your other machine was a P3-1000 that might explain it, since
>that is 44.5% faster than a P3-650, which is really quite a lot.
>The Ring is surprisingly slower than Monaco for race starts. Running the
>test I described I get 20/21 fps at Monaco and 17 fps at the Ring.
>Anyway, the point still stands, that when I upgraded from a V3 3000 AGP to a
>GF2 GTS (32MB), GPL definitely got slower, whereas every other game got
>considerably faster. Since N4 runs like a dream under D3D on my system, the
>poor performance of GPL would have to be down to the D3D renderer for GPL.
>You're lucky enough to have a system that can cope with it I guess.
>Needless to say, you don't need a P3-1000 to guarantee 36 fps with Glide.
>> Does this a Monaco! I have never worried about the Ring. What can I
>> say, or was that on the 1GHz, anway it was either on the 850-P3 or
>> 1GHz-P3 with the same video card. One would run 1280*1024 at Monaco
>> with full 16 cars, every single option on except arms, detail full to
>> right and an Act Labs Force RS with no drop in frame rate at start of
>> race. Only use in-car view.
>> The past month I have been running GPL on my other slower computer and
>> it does very poorly. I will be swapping the computers really soon.
>> SLG
>> >Go run a race start at the Ring with 19 opponents from in-car view at the
>> >back of the grid and see if the frame rate stays at 36 fps for the whole
>> >race start, including just after the flag drops. I'd really like to
>know.
>> >> Oh how odd, my computer a P3-850 with GeForce2 GTS 32MB runs 1280*1024
>> >> with everything on except arms, and the detail slider all the way to
>> >> the right, at a constant 36FPS, without FSAA. So what are you talking
>> >> about?
>> >> SLG
>> (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
>> and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
>> due to too many English classes/teachers)
Based on your results I'm *really* looking forward to getting a P3-1000 next
week :)
Just for reference, when I upgraded from a V3 3000 AGP to a GF2 GTS the
frame rate during a full race-start at Monza dropped from 27 fps to 21 fps.
Clearly the D3D renderer isn't release quality, which is fair enough since
it was only written by one papy employee in his spare time.
http://www.accessmicro.com/productinfo.php3?ProductId=CPIII1000ECOSECRTL
If you are getting a 133MHz FSB then ignore this!
:-)
SLG
>Based on your results I'm *really* looking forward to getting a P3-1000 next
>week :)
>Just for reference, when I upgraded from a V3 3000 AGP to a GF2 GTS the
>frame rate during a full race-start at Monza dropped from 27 fps to 21 fps.
>Clearly the D3D renderer isn't release quality, which is fair enough since
>it was only written by one papy employee in his spare time.
>> I think it was the P3-1000 that did this. I am using it to respond and
>> it is running a TNT2 now, not the GeForce 2. I think that it will do
>> 36 at most tracks, just went in and checked it (with Outlook 2000,
>> Free Agent, & ICQ running). Went to the Ring with 19 cars, full
>> everything (no arms) at 1280*1024 and with a TNT2 I got a drop to 28
>> that went up to 36 as soon as I got to T1. I would think it would be
>> more than capable with a GF2. . . but maybe I am just on crack. :-)
>> I am using the Det 3 6.31 drivers here at work (1GHz & TNT2) with the
>> V-sinc always off in the advanced properties with the coolbits
>> registry fix available here:
>> http://3dchipset.com/utilities/nvidia/overclocking/coolbits/index.html
>> I found that GPL is more responsive to CPU upgrades than just video
>> upgrades, but then again, that experience is mainly with Nvidia
>> adapters the only Voodoo I have used it with is a Voodoo2 and it has
>> problems with lockups/Heat!
>> SLG
