rec.autos.simulators

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

Mike Davi

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Mike Davi » Sun, 07 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Fellow Usenetters,
     I felt compelled to write and tell all you good people about some
of the problems I experienced with Windows98. First, for the background;
I did a full custom install over my existing Win95 O/S. In other words,
an upgrade, just like I assume most people will be doing. In my case the
CD happens to be the full version, rather than the strictly upgrade
disc. The disc is the normal production version that will be on sale
June 25th.
    The install itself went smooth and the machine booted up with the
fancy new Win98 logo. All of the normal big apps like Word, Access,
Adobe PhotoShop5 and Illustrator, etc functioned perfectly normal.
However, the touted speed of the new O/S was certainly not there for me.
Windows Explorer was a dog to use, very slow with the new interface. It
made my P2/300 with 128megs SDRAM run more like an older P/100. I must
admit I was pretty surprised, not to mention dissappointed. The
multi-media stuff also was all fine, DVD player, mpeg movie playback,
etc.
    Then I went for the important apps and started to fire up some of my
games. The new killer- Unreal, ran great right from my desktop shortcut.
So did Formula One Racing Simulation, both running on the 3dfx card.
Speed and appearent framerate were just as they should be, great. DOS
games, forget about it. I must have spent hours fooling around, making
little .bat and config files to get the individual apps to run, if at
all. I say this because, as someone with quite a bit of C and DOS
programming experience, If I had problems, then lots of average users
will be having nightmares with their new O/S. It is not something simple
such as delete and re-install the game, some things just plain will not
run without major work, and headaches. Major problems would include more
system lock-ups than I have ever had before. My system had been running
pretty darn sweet, and I have re-booted more today than I have in the
last two years! The temp guage on the beastie showed that whole system
was actually running hot from so much cycling, and all of the variable
speed fans were running full tilt continuously. I started to get a
little bit worried about damaging some components.
    I know that lots of you guys, like myself, were looking forward to
the new upgrade. I felt I should take a moment and warn all you good
people about one little aspect of the install;
__READ THIS PART CAREFULLY.__
    When you first start the install, it asks you do you want to save
all your old settings and preferences? SAY YES!!! If not, then you will
not be able to un-install the new version and go back to Win95. You will
have to reformat the disc and then re-install 95 if you do not save all
the old information. I can just envision lots of neophytes blindly
rushing through the install and not paying attention when it asks you
this one little question. Luckily, it really does work and everything is
pretty much back to normal after spending about eight hours fooling
around with all the problems of the new version.
    The truth be told, I have always liked Microsoft products and was
really in for a shock. I will try again on another machine, after doing
a full wipe and format.When I have _lots_ of time <ggg.> It may make a
difference, it may not. With the release date just around the corner, I
felt I should let all you guys know about my own little trails and
tribulations.
    All the best, Mike

--
Michael S. Davis
Creative Media-Works
Computer/Audio/Video Convergence
"from Creative minds spring Creative solutions."
http://www.racesimcentral.net/


Fred Flintston

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Fred Flintston » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

I'm running beta 3 and it works better than osr2.1! send me yours if you
don't want it!


>Fellow Usenetters,
>     I felt compelled to write and tell all you good people about some
>of the problems I experienced with Windows98. First, for the background;
>I did a full custom install over my existing Win95 O/S. In other words,
>an upgrade, just like I assume most people will be doing. In my case the
>CD happens to be the full version, rather than the strictly upgrade
>disc. The disc is the normal production version that will be on sale
>June 25th.
>    The install itself went smooth and the machine booted up with the
>fancy new Win98 logo. All of the normal big apps like Word, Access,
>Adobe PhotoShop5 and Illustrator, etc functioned perfectly normal.
>However, the touted speed of the new O/S was certainly not there for me.
>Windows Explorer was a dog to use, very slow with the new interface. It
>made my P2/300 with 128megs SDRAM run more like an older P/100. I must
>admit I was pretty surprised, not to mention dissappointed. The
>multi-media stuff also was all fine, DVD player, mpeg movie playback,
>etc.
>    Then I went for the important apps and started to fire up some of my
>games. The new killer- Unreal, ran great right from my desktop shortcut.
>So did Formula One Racing Simulation, both running on the 3dfx card.
>Speed and appearent framerate were just as they should be, great. DOS
>games, forget about it. I must have spent hours fooling around, making
>little .bat and config files to get the individual apps to run, if at
>all. I say this because, as someone with quite a bit of C and DOS
>programming experience, If I had problems, then lots of average users
>will be having nightmares with their new O/S. It is not something simple
>such as delete and re-install the game, some things just plain will not
>run without major work, and headaches. Major problems would include more
>system lock-ups than I have ever had before. My system had been running
>pretty darn sweet, and I have re-booted more today than I have in the
>last two years! The temp guage on the beastie showed that whole system
>was actually running hot from so much cycling, and all of the variable
>speed fans were running full tilt continuously. I started to get a
>little bit worried about damaging some components.
>    I know that lots of you guys, like myself, were looking forward to
>the new upgrade. I felt I should take a moment and warn all you good
>people about one little aspect of the install;
>__READ THIS PART CAREFULLY.__
>    When you first start the install, it asks you do you want to save
>all your old settings and preferences? SAY YES!!! If not, then you will
>not be able to un-install the new version and go back to Win95. You will
>have to reformat the disc and then re-install 95 if you do not save all
>the old information. I can just envision lots of neophytes blindly
>rushing through the install and not paying attention when it asks you
>this one little question. Luckily, it really does work and everything is
>pretty much back to normal after spending about eight hours fooling
>around with all the problems of the new version.
>    The truth be told, I have always liked Microsoft products and was
>really in for a shock. I will try again on another machine, after doing
>a full wipe and format.When I have _lots_ of time <ggg.> It may make a
>difference, it may not. With the release date just around the corner, I
>felt I should let all you guys know about my own little trails and
>tribulations.
>    All the best, Mike

>--
>Michael S. Davis
>Creative Media-Works
>Computer/Audio/Video Convergence
>"from Creative minds spring Creative solutions."
>http://www.creativemedia-works.com



Arnaud Guillo

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Arnaud Guillo » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Strange that you should say that. I have been running Win98 Beta 3 for a
while now with no noticeable problem... It is indeed a bit more stable than
Win95, and much faster when loading apps or starting/shutting down the
machine.

Have heard horror stories (blue screen of death yadda yadda yadda) but as
far as I am concerned, 3 months of intensive use with no problem that I can
relate to Win98. All my games have worked well under it (then again I do not
play any more Dos games...)...

If Win95 works better for you, be glad you did indeed elect to backup your
previous configuration. Supposedly you should be able to revert to it
effortlessly (at least that is what Microsoft is telling us...). I am
slightly skeptical on that part, though, remembering the nightmares of IE
4.0 or Direct X for the people who tried to uninstall those...

Let us know how it goes for you.

Cheers

<snip>

Ken Alverso

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Ken Alverso » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Re: interface being slow

Turn off the web view.  That is slow.  Once you turn that off you get most
of the new ui features and it's faster than before.  Only use the web ui for
exploring if you have a good reason to.  Turn off the active desktop as
well, that makes the desktop redraw twice ever time, and slows it down.  You
should be up to full speed now.

Re: Dos problems

Dunno on this one, what exactly were you having trouble with?  I personally
haven't run a dos game for a long time, and those that I have (DK for Dos,
Quake for Dos) have worked beautifully, as has Turbo Pascal 7.  Everything
else is in windows and works great anyway.

Ken


>Fellow Usenetters,
>     I felt compelled to write and tell all you good people about some
>of the problems I experienced with Windows98. First, for the background;
>I did a full custom install over my existing Win95 O/S. In other words,
>an upgrade, just like I assume most people will be doing. In my case the
>CD happens to be the full version, rather than the strictly upgrade
>disc. The disc is the normal production version that will be on sale
>June 25th.
>    The install itself went smooth and the machine booted up with the
>fancy new Win98 logo. All of the normal big apps like Word, Access,
>Adobe PhotoShop5 and Illustrator, etc functioned perfectly normal.
>However, the touted speed of the new O/S was certainly not there for me.
>Windows Explorer was a dog to use, very slow with the new interface. It
>made my P2/300 with 128megs SDRAM run more like an older P/100. I must
>admit I was pretty surprised, not to mention dissappointed. The
>multi-media stuff also was all fine, DVD player, mpeg movie playback,
>etc.
>    Then I went for the important apps and started to fire up some of my
>games. The new killer- Unreal, ran great right from my desktop shortcut.
>So did Formula One Racing Simulation, both running on the 3dfx card.
>Speed and appearent framerate were just as they should be, great. DOS
>games, forget about it. I must have spent hours fooling around, making
>little .bat and config files to get the individual apps to run, if at
>all. I say this because, as someone with quite a bit of C and DOS
>programming experience, If I had problems, then lots of average users
>will be having nightmares with their new O/S. It is not something simple
>such as delete and re-install the game, some things just plain will not
>run without major work, and headaches. Major problems would include more
>system lock-ups than I have ever had before. My system had been running
>pretty darn sweet, and I have re-booted more today than I have in the
>last two years! The temp guage on the beastie showed that whole system
>was actually running hot from so much cycling, and all of the variable
>speed fans were running full tilt continuously. I started to get a
>little bit worried about damaging some components.
>    I know that lots of you guys, like myself, were looking forward to
>the new upgrade. I felt I should take a moment and warn all you good
>people about one little aspect of the install;
>__READ THIS PART CAREFULLY.__
>    When you first start the install, it asks you do you want to save
>all your old settings and preferences? SAY YES!!! If not, then you will
>not be able to un-install the new version and go back to Win95. You will
>have to reformat the disc and then re-install 95 if you do not save all
>the old information. I can just envision lots of neophytes blindly
>rushing through the install and not paying attention when it asks you
>this one little question. Luckily, it really does work and everything is
>pretty much back to normal after spending about eight hours fooling
>around with all the problems of the new version.
>    The truth be told, I have always liked Microsoft products and was
>really in for a shock. I will try again on another machine, after doing
>a full wipe and format.When I have _lots_ of time <ggg.> It may make a
>difference, it may not. With the release date just around the corner, I
>felt I should let all you guys know about my own little trails and
>tribulations.
>    All the best, Mike

>--
>Michael S. Davis
>Creative Media-Works
>Computer/Audio/Video Convergence
>"from Creative minds spring Creative solutions."
>http://www.creativemedia-works.com



Bartolome

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Bartolome » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Probably the most useful post I have seen in this newsgroup! Thank you.
ROTFL. Made my day.

--

Alter that obviously :-)
"Bill Gates is a white Persian cat and a monocle away
from becoming another James Bond villain."--Dennis Miller
"No Mr Bond, I expect you to upgrade." -Thanks go to Terri Branch


>The Kennewell Philosphy on Upgrading Operating System:-

>"Never, ever, on pain of castration and death by tickling, "upgrade"
>your current operating system version UNLESS (a) A new, exciting,
>'must-have' racing simulation will not run on anything less than the
>newest Operating System or (b) your existing exciting
>racing-simulation(s)will run (i)faster, (ii)more reliably, (iii)with
>hugely-improved graphics on the newest operating system.

>Before "upgrading" to the newest Operating System make quadruple-sure
>that there is absolutely no other alternative."

Bruce Kennewel

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

The Kennewell Philosphy on Upgrading Operating System:-

"Never, ever, on pain of castration and death by tickling, "upgrade"
your current operating system version UNLESS (a) A new, exciting,
'must-have' racing simulation will not run on anything less than the
newest Operating System or (b) your existing exciting
racing-simulation(s)will run (i)faster, (ii)more reliably, (iii)with
hugely-improved graphics on the newest operating system.

Before "upgrading" to the newest Operating System make quadruple-sure
that there is absolutely no other alternative."


> Fellow Usenetters,
>      I felt compelled to write and tell all you good people about some
> of the problems I experienced with Windows98.

--
Regards,
Bruce.
----------
The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club  is located at:-
http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/
Bruce Kennewel

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

You're most welcome, Bart! :-)


> Probably the most useful post I have seen in this newsgroup! Thank you.
> ROTFL. Made my day.

--
Regards,
Bruce.
----------
The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club  is located at:-
http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/
Anthony Micha

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Anthony Micha » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

< snip bunch of ***>

Your thermol sensor says your running hot because of so many reboots?
What a bunch of crap.

I work desktop support for a large healthcare company and I see this
kind of crying all the time, usually from developers and other
"experts".

First of all, like it or not, most professianals know that for max
stability you need to wipe the drive clean and reinstall.  I know its
a pain and I know MS says you can upgrade, but your rolling the dice.

Second, as some others here have said dumb the OS down by turning of
the stupid active desktop etc.

I have seen very few screwed up machines that couldn't be fixed by
making obvious configuration changes.  Get a systems professional to
look at it.

Tilu

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Tilu » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

hey !

First of all, i useing win98 betas since beta1 last summer !
i had some problems myself, but as the new versions was coming all seems to
dissapire !
on beta3 in january i had no problmes anymore, since then i had ALL the
diferent version, all just upgraded, never had to reinstall win98 even after
motherboard changes !!! ( in the past i was forced to reinstall win95 every
3 mouths )
Now that i own the retail version for developers, i like it, i have only 1
single problem, my matrox G100 drivers dont let me choose any higher refresh
rates then 85Hz, this is becouse i dont have win98 native drivers for the
card !
Also note that win98 is much more stable, even on my badly overclocked
P2-233 to 350, it generates a lotta heat, but still win98 runs just fine !


>Fellow Usenetters,
>     I felt compelled to write and tell all you good people about some
>of the problems I experienced with Windows98. First, for the background;
>I did a full custom install over my existing Win95 O/S. In other words,
>an upgrade, just like I assume most people will be doing. In my case the
>CD happens to be the full version, rather than the strictly upgrade
>disc. The disc is the normal production version that will be on sale
>June 25th.
>    The install itself went smooth and the machine booted up with the
>fancy new Win98 logo. All of the normal big apps like Word, Access,
>Adobe PhotoShop5 and Illustrator, etc functioned perfectly normal.
>However, the touted speed of the new O/S was certainly not there for me.
>Windows Explorer was a dog to use, very slow with the new interface.

turn active desktop off, and check chache settings !

i had no more problems that i had whit 95...try not to use windowed mode but
start directly in DOS.

 It is not something simple

well...i dont reboot my PC for days...i just let it go to suspend mode, and
it wakes up nicely every time !

The temp guage on the beastie showed that whole system

??????? so much cycling??????? naaah

Tilus
sorry for my bad english..

Mike

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Mike » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Mike,

What is the version number that you are using?


>Fellow Usenetters,
>     I felt compelled to write and tell all you good people about some
>of the problems I experienced with Windows98. First, for the background;
>I did a full custom install over my existing Win95 O/S. In other words,
>an upgrade, just like I assume most people will be doing. In my case the
>CD happens to be the full version, rather than the strictly upgrade
>disc. The disc is the normal production version that will be on sale
>June 25th.
>    The install itself went smooth and the machine booted up with the
>fancy new Win98 logo. All of the normal big apps like Word, Access,
>Adobe PhotoShop5 and Illustrator, etc functioned perfectly normal.
>However, the touted speed of the new O/S was certainly not there for me.
>Windows Explorer was a dog to use, very slow with the new interface. It
>made my P2/300 with 128megs SDRAM run more like an older P/100. I must
>admit I was pretty surprised, not to mention dissappointed. The
>multi-media stuff also was all fine, DVD player, mpeg movie playback,
>etc.
>    Then I went for the important apps and started to fire up some of my
>games. The new killer- Unreal, ran great right from my desktop shortcut.
>So did Formula One Racing Simulation, both running on the 3dfx card.
>Speed and appearent framerate were just as they should be, great. DOS
>games, forget about it. I must have spent hours fooling around, making
>little .bat and config files to get the individual apps to run, if at
>all. I say this because, as someone with quite a bit of C and DOS
>programming experience, If I had problems, then lots of average users
>will be having nightmares with their new O/S. It is not something simple
>such as delete and re-install the game, some things just plain will not
>run without major work, and headaches. Major problems would include more
>system lock-ups than I have ever had before. My system had been running
>pretty darn sweet, and I have re-booted more today than I have in the
>last two years! The temp guage on the beastie showed that whole system
>was actually running hot from so much cycling, and all of the variable
>speed fans were running full tilt continuously. I started to get a
>little bit worried about damaging some components.
>    I know that lots of you guys, like myself, were looking forward to
>the new upgrade. I felt I should take a moment and warn all you good
>people about one little aspect of the install;
>__READ THIS PART CAREFULLY.__
>    When you first start the install, it asks you do you want to save
>all your old settings and preferences? SAY YES!!! If not, then you will
>not be able to un-install the new version and go back to Win95. You will
>have to reformat the disc and then re-install 95 if you do not save all
>the old information. I can just envision lots of neophytes blindly
>rushing through the install and not paying attention when it asks you
>this one little question. Luckily, it really does work and everything is
>pretty much back to normal after spending about eight hours fooling
>around with all the problems of the new version.
>    The truth be told, I have always liked Microsoft products and was
>really in for a shock. I will try again on another machine, after doing
>a full wipe and format.When I have _lots_ of time <ggg.> It may make a
>difference, it may not. With the release date just around the corner, I
>felt I should let all you guys know about my own little trails and
>tribulations.
>    All the best, Mike

>--
>Michael S. Davis
>Creative Media-Works
>Computer/Audio/Video Convergence
>"from Creative minds spring Creative solutions."
>http://www.creativemedia-works.com



Rob Gil

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Rob Gil » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

    Sounds to me like your first mistake was "upgrading" off of 95 istead of
doing a new install on a formated drive.  As a tech at Best Buy i've
upgraded hundreds of computers from 3.1 to 95.  And without fail, all the
customers that chose to "upgrade" had poor results.  You cant expect a new
OS to run at its best when it cant start off with a fresh install.  Buy as
zip drive, back you games, documents up, and start fresh.
    As for the DOS problems, I havnt run a DOS game since ICR2!


> Fellow Usenetters,
>      I felt compelled to write and tell all you good people about some
> of the problems I experienced with Windows98. First, for the background;
> I did a full custom install over my existing Win95 O/S. In other words,
> an upgrade, just like I assume most people will be doing. In my case the
> CD happens to be the full version, rather than the strictly upgrade
> disc. The disc is the normal production version that will be on sale
> June 25th.
>     The install itself went smooth and the machine booted up with the
> fancy new Win98 logo. All of the normal big apps like Word, Access,
> Adobe PhotoShop5 and Illustrator, etc functioned perfectly normal.
> However, the touted speed of the new O/S was certainly not there for me.
> Windows Explorer was a dog to use, very slow with the new interface. It
> made my P2/300 with 128megs SDRAM run more like an older P/100. I must
> admit I was pretty surprised, not to mention dissappointed. The
> multi-media stuff also was all fine, DVD player, mpeg movie playback,
> etc.
>     Then I went for the important apps and started to fire up some of my
> games. The new killer- Unreal, ran great right from my desktop shortcut.
> So did Formula One Racing Simulation, both running on the 3dfx card.
> Speed and appearent framerate were just as they should be, great. DOS
> games, forget about it. I must have spent hours fooling around, making
> little .bat and config files to get the individual apps to run, if at
> all. I say this because, as someone with quite a bit of C and DOS
> programming experience, If I had problems, then lots of average users
> will be having nightmares with their new O/S. It is not something simple
> such as delete and re-install the game, some things just plain will not
> run without major work, and headaches. Major problems would include more
> system lock-ups than I have ever had before. My system had been running
> pretty darn sweet, and I have re-booted more today than I have in the
> last two years! The temp guage on the beastie showed that whole system
> was actually running hot from so much cycling, and all of the variable
> speed fans were running full tilt continuously. I started to get a
> little bit worried about damaging some components.
>     I know that lots of you guys, like myself, were looking forward to
> the new upgrade. I felt I should take a moment and warn all you good
> people about one little aspect of the install;
> __READ THIS PART CAREFULLY.__
>     When you first start the install, it asks you do you want to save
> all your old settings and preferences? SAY YES!!! If not, then you will
> not be able to un-install the new version and go back to Win95. You will
> have to reformat the disc and then re-install 95 if you do not save all
> the old information. I can just envision lots of neophytes blindly
> rushing through the install and not paying attention when it asks you
> this one little question. Luckily, it really does work and everything is
> pretty much back to normal after spending about eight hours fooling
> around with all the problems of the new version.
>     The truth be told, I have always liked Microsoft products and was
> really in for a shock. I will try again on another machine, after doing
> a full wipe and format.When I have _lots_ of time <ggg.> It may make a
> difference, it may not. With the release date just around the corner, I
> felt I should let all you guys know about my own little trails and
> tribulations.
>     All the best, Mike

> --
> Michael S. Davis
> Creative Media-Works
> Computer/Audio/Video Convergence
> "from Creative minds spring Creative solutions."
> http://www.creativemedia-works.com



Dennis

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Dennis » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00


>    Sounds to me like your first mistake was "upgrading" off of 95 istead of
>doing a new install on a formated drive.  As a tech at Best Buy i've
>upgraded hundreds of computers from 3.1 to 95.  And without fail, all the
>customers that chose to "upgrade" had poor results.  You cant expect a new
>OS to run at its best when it cant start off with a fresh install.  Buy as
>zip drive, back you games, documents up, and start fresh.
>    As for the DOS problems, I havnt run a DOS game since ICR2!

I am still entirely confused here. Installing a dvd rom drive should be no
different than installing a new cd-rom drive.

** To respond to me via email, remove the x's from primenet **

Marc J. Nelso

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Marc J. Nelso » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

You know, except for the 'sim racing' part, the O/S you
describe sounds like a Mac.  ;)


> The Kennewell Philosphy on Upgrading Operating System:-

> "Never, ever, on pain of castration and death by tickling, "upgrade"
> your current operating system version UNLESS (a) A new, exciting,
> 'must-have' racing simulation will not run on anything less than the
> newest Operating System or (b) your existing exciting
> racing-simulation(s)will run (i)faster, (ii)more reliably, (iii)with
> hugely-improved graphics on the newest operating system.

--


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Marc J. Nelso

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Marc J. Nelso » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Thank you Doctor for the less_than_neccessary 1st half of your
post, as well as your informative 2nd half.  You need to work
on your bed-side manner, however.  ;)


> I work desktop support for a large healthcare company and I see this
> kind of crying all the time, usually from developers and other
> "experts".

--


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The Sim Project - http://www.simproject.com

* No animals were harmed in the making of this e-mail *

Jeff Theobal

Win98 horror story (off-topic)

by Jeff Theobal » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Please take this to the appropriate forum.  We have enough noise in here.
Let's NOT start a thread on Win98, okay?

Thanks,
Jeff


>Fellow Usenetters,
>     I felt compelled to write and tell all you good people about some
>of the problems I experienced with Windows98. First, for the background;
>I did a full custom install over my existing Win95 O/S. In other words,
>an upgrade, just like I assume most people will be doing. In my case the
>CD happens to be the full version, rather than the strictly upgrade
>disc. The disc is the normal production version that will be on sale
>June 25th.
>    The install itself went smooth and the machine booted up with the
>fancy new Win98 logo. All of the normal big apps like Word, Access,
>Adobe PhotoShop5 and Illustrator, etc functioned perfectly normal.
>However, the touted speed of the new O/S was certainly not there for me.
>Windows Explorer was a dog to use, very slow with the new interface. It
>made my P2/300 with 128megs SDRAM run more like an older P/100. I must
>admit I was pretty surprised, not to mention dissappointed. The
>multi-media stuff also was all fine, DVD player, mpeg movie playback,
>etc.
>    Then I went for the important apps and started to fire up some of my
>games. The new killer- Unreal, ran great right from my desktop shortcut.
>So did Formula One Racing Simulation, both running on the 3dfx card.
>Speed and appearent framerate were just as they should be, great. DOS
>games, forget about it. I must have spent hours fooling around, making
>little .bat and config files to get the individual apps to run, if at
>all. I say this because, as someone with quite a bit of C and DOS
>programming experience, If I had problems, then lots of average users
>will be having nightmares with their new O/S. It is not something simple
>such as delete and re-install the game, some things just plain will not
>run without major work, and headaches. Major problems would include more
>system lock-ups than I have ever had before. My system had been running
>pretty darn sweet, and I have re-booted more today than I have in the
>last two years! The temp guage on the beastie showed that whole system
>was actually running hot from so much cycling, and all of the variable
>speed fans were running full tilt continuously. I started to get a
>little bit worried about damaging some components.
>    I know that lots of you guys, like myself, were looking forward to
>the new upgrade. I felt I should take a moment and warn all you good
>people about one little aspect of the install;
>__READ THIS PART CAREFULLY.__
>    When you first start the install, it asks you do you want to save
>all your old settings and preferences? SAY YES!!! If not, then you will
>not be able to un-install the new version and go back to Win95. You will
>have to reformat the disc and then re-install 95 if you do not save all
>the old information. I can just envision lots of neophytes blindly
>rushing through the install and not paying attention when it asks you
>this one little question. Luckily, it really does work and everything is
>pretty much back to normal after spending about eight hours fooling
>around with all the problems of the new version.
>    The truth be told, I have always liked Microsoft products and was
>really in for a shock. I will try again on another machine, after doing
>a full wipe and format.When I have _lots_ of time <ggg.> It may make a
>difference, it may not. With the release date just around the corner, I
>felt I should let all you guys know about my own little trails and
>tribulations.
>    All the best, Mike

>--
>Michael S. Davis
>Creative Media-Works
>Computer/Audio/Video Convergence
>"from Creative minds spring Creative solutions."
>http://www.creativemedia-works.com




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