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GPL in 2005

Peter Ive

GPL in 2005

by Peter Ive » Sun, 23 Jan 2000 04:00:00





>> Will we still all be playing this sim in 2005 because nothing better has
>> come along by then?  Let's face it, GPL is a work of love from papy, and
>the
>> we're all going to be stuck on it like the people still playing
>quakeworld,
>> and the people who played falcon3 until su-27 was released.

>Personally, I'd be quite happy racing GPL for a good many years to come,
>despite the possibility of newer and better additions to the F1 genre.

>GP3 looks set to cause an absolute storm amongst its fans, so it might not
>be too long before many of us reduce the time we spend on GPL, but to stop
>racing it altogether, not a chance.

Thing is, we will still be playing GPL online, even when GP3 comes out
by the sounds of it.  Having said that, GP3 is going to have to be
something awesome to get me away from GPL offline.

In fact, thinking about it, although it has been stated here that one of
the reasons GPL failed to sell well because of the era that it covered,
eventually the era covered becomes less important the more that you
play.  For instance the GPL AI drivers - Jim Clark, Graham Hill, Dennis
Hulme etc - start to take on less significance because they appear to
behave less like human drivers and more like computer AI.  With this in
mind, although GP3 in first flush is going to seem exceedingly
attractive - because it covers the current era - unless the AI is done
well, then after a while, its going to be like driving against computer
opponents who just happen to be named after the current F1 drivers.  I
hope this won't be the case.
--
Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

No person's opinions can be said to be
more correct than another's, because each is
the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Eldre

GPL in 2005

by Eldre » Sun, 23 Jan 2000 04:00:00



>I too am getting bored with GPL.  I found N3 as a distraction, fun, but not
>really as good as GPL.

Getting *bored* with GPL?  Why?  Is it so easy to you that you win most of the
time, or have you reached the limit of your improvement?  This is an honest
question, not a flame or whatever...

Eldred
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Joe6

GPL in 2005

by Joe6 » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00


>After racing GPL on the converted
>tracks N3 just seems sluggish and slow. The feeling you get at Tally with
>GPL just blows away N3, you feel like you're flying around that track which
>is the way it should be.

I agree. The graphics also look much cleaner in GPL.

Joe McGinn
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Mark Seer

GPL in 2005

by Mark Seer » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I sincerely hope so Peter. You should see my phone bills <G>

MS
.

Peter Ive

GPL in 2005

by Peter Ive » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00



Know what you mean <g>.  I've had to go over to BTinternet's free
weekend access for that very reason.
--
Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

No person's opinions can be said to be
more correct than another's, because each is
the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Joel Willstei

GPL in 2005

by Joel Willstei » Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:00:00


     The bottom line for me is if it doesn't have online racing, then I'm
just not going to buy it.  Simply because the vast majority of my nightly
racing time is spent racing gpl & nas3 online. SCGT just sits there
gathering dust.

Joel Willstein

Joel Willstei

GPL in 2005

by Joel Willstei » Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Andrew,

    There is only one new track being worked on. As for the cars, they're
current projects are to continue doing the 1967 cars correctly with as much
detail as humanly possible.  At the rate they're presently going at, the sim
will have shelved by most of us by the time they finish the 67' carset.

     The only problem that I have with this is that the cars,(so far
theBrabham and Ferrari), look fantantic, but once your racing, it really
doesn't make any real difference. However, the new***pits, & dashes make
all the difference in the world.

Joel Willstein

Jonathon Gree

GPL in 2005

by Jonathon Gree » Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:00:00





...I'll buy GP3 but it's

Oh, I imagine that there'll be online racing in GP3 alright, but it'll be on
Bernie Ecclestones terms, via domains owned by Bernie Ecclestone, hosted on
Bernie Ecclestones servers, and with any commercial benefit accruing to
Bernie Ecclestone and his co-investors, and that's why the licensing deal
specifically refers to TCP/IP (ie open, public domain) protocols...

--
JG

Chris Bloo

GPL in 2005

by Chris Bloo » Fri, 28 Jan 2000 04:00:00


>      The bottom line for me is if it doesn't have online racing, then I'm
> just not going to buy it.  Simply because the vast majority of my nightly
> racing time is spent racing gpl & nas3 online. SCGT just sits there
> gathering dust.

> Joel Willstein


Well you might spend your time racing on-line but for alot of people they
are too far away from any servers to race on-line.  I don't give a toss if a
game is multiplayer, I will only race against the AI or another player on
the same computer.

I'm sick and tired of this arrogance that online racers seem to have about
them!

Bruce Kennewel

GPL in 2005

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:00:00

That's a rather extreme statement, Joel.
(A little bird tells me that there is more than just Snetterton being worked
on insofar as tracks are concerned.  As for cars, that's a different matter
altogether).

Think of the longevity that GP2 has had, then remember that GPL is the only
sim to offer the dynamics that it does.

Don't shelve GPL so quickly because unless another sim with the same base
characteristics is produced I would venture to say that GPL will be around
for a long time to come.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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Anthony Brook

GPL in 2005

by Anthony Brook » Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I'ld say GPL will be on my computer for awhile longer, but like many others,
it will depend on GP3. Come to think of it, I still have Cart Racing from
Sierra on my computer. I bought that when it first came out. Would be nice
to get an updated version.

Anthony

Eldre

GPL in 2005

by Eldre » Mon, 31 Jan 2000 04:00:00


writes:



>>      The bottom line for me is if it doesn't have online racing, then I'm
>> just not going to buy it.  Simply because the vast majority of my nightly
>> racing time is spent racing gpl & nas3 online. SCGT just sits there
>> gathering dust.

>> Joel Willstein

>Well you might spend your time racing on-line but for alot of people they
>are too far away from any servers to race on-line.  I don't give a toss if a
>game is multiplayer, I will only race against the AI or another player on
>the same computer.

>I'm sick and tired of this arrogance that online racers seem to have about
>them!

Hmm...I didn't see it as arrogance.  He just *prefers* online racing, and bases
his purchases on availability of that feature.  There's nothing wrong with
that.

Eldred
--
Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
Own Grand Prix Legends?  Goto  http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc

Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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Joel Willstei

GPL in 2005

by Joel Willstei » Thu, 03 Feb 2000 04:00:00




> >      The bottom line for me is if it doesn't have online racing, then
I'm
> > just not going to buy it.  Simply because the vast majority of my
nightly
> > racing time is spent racing gpl & nas3 online. SCGT just sits there
> > gathering dust.

> > Joel Willstein

> Well you might spend your time racing on-line but for alot of people they
> are too far away from any servers to race on-line.  I don't give a toss if
a
> game is multiplayer, I will only race against the AI or another player on
> the same computer.

> I'm sick and tired of this arrogance that online racers seem to have about
> them!

Chris,

    I don't see where I was being arrogant. For me, online racing is a
important feature.  For you it's not.  It's just that simple.

    But I'll tell you one thing, online racing is alot harder. You can't hit
the reset button everytime you***up. You can't hit pause to collect your
thoughts or decide what you want to do during a pit stop. You're running
against human beings that do weird things at the darnest times, not
programed AIs.

Joel Willstein

Joel Willstei

GPL in 2005

by Joel Willstei » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00



> writes:



> >>      The bottom line for me is if it doesn't have online racing, then
I'm
> >> just not going to buy it.  Simply because the vast majority of my
nightly
> >> racing time is spent racing gpl & nas3 online. SCGT just sits there
> >> gathering dust.

> >> Joel Willstein

> >Well you might spend your time racing on-line but for alot of people they
> >are too far away from any servers to race on-line.  I don't give a toss
if a
> >game is multiplayer, I will only race against the AI or another player on
> >the same computer.

> >I'm sick and tired of this arrogance that online racers seem to have
about
> >them!

> Hmm...I didn't see it as arrogance.  He just *prefers* online racing, and
bases
> his purchases on availability of that feature.  There's nothing wrong with
> that.

> Eldred

Eldred,

    Thanks for explaining my simple statement to him. I merely voiced my
preference.

Joel Willstein


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