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The worst thing about warez

Jan Verschuere

The worst thing about warez

by Jan Verschuere » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

LOL... my words to Andre aren't even cold and they're already at it.

Jan./one week until a major reality check guys.
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Simon Brow

The worst thing about warez

by Simon Brow » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Hate to keep saying this, but there is a date in the Readme file that says
July 13th 2000, which means it's the final version.
Ken Brow

The worst thing about warez

by Ken Brow » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

It is the final version and works good. Tried it out and will buy it when it
hits the stores here. Of course I deleted it after I tried it out.

Badland

The worst thing about warez

by Badland » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

"There's something rotten in the state of Denmark"......***is ***and
there is nothing a beta turning into release version is gonna change. I
don't get it though - I think GP3 delivers what was officially promised -
nothin' less or more. I think the main problem is the "closest to God" hype
about Mr Crammond. Yeah, he made some brilliant things in THE PAST - such as
Revs, which I think is one of my no 1 experiences on a 'puter. F1GP - which
I still have the original for my Amiga was stunning for its time.

However, GP2 was less from stunning, and I guess Mr Crammond aint up with
the task anymore - and this one will be the last one where he could live on
his reputation and name.

For me there's only one: Mr Kaemmer - yes I'm a ICR1&2, Nascar 1,2,3 and GPL
junkie - he is always is a huge leap in front of the competition

So - yeah everyone is disappointed - but who promised anything more?

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Tim Wheatle

The worst thing about warez

by Tim Wheatle » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

then it's the final readme version, hexscan the exe and you'll see the exe
is not 1.0


Greg Cisk

The worst thing about warez

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Why didn't you complain equally loudly when F1 2000 and Official F1
was reped and warez'd???

What proof do you have of this? This is very similar to asking how
you know GP3 will be worth a shit...

Nope. I would be equally unhappy of buying a game touted as
version 3 to find out it is really 2.5. I don't do warez (never have)
nor do I condone it. But it is a fact of live on the internet. However
I think releasing a ***game is as bad as warezing one.

Again... Exactly what proof do you have that this is not the final copy.
Were you a GP3 beta tester?  Are you really Geoff Crammond?

And what is your proof that the warez GP3 code is incomplete.

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Greg Cisk

The worst thing about warez

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Of course. Now you can play Mr. Rightous like other people
that have used warez and deleted it.

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> > Hate to keep saying this, but there is a date in the Readme file that
says
> > July 13th 2000, which means it's the final version.

Senninh

The worst thing about warez

by Senninh » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:35:01 +0100, "Chris Wright"


>This whole warez fiasco has really tarnished the build up to next Friday for
>the entire r.a.s/race sim community.

A point can be made without resorting to gross misrepresentation of
the facts you know.

And you know this to be the case how exactly, since you haven't
downloaded, looked at or tried it? Nor have I mind you, but then I'm
not making claims about something of which I have no experience.

He does all the time, to get an idea how things are going. Not a
problem. If my job sucks when the timer is 99% through then it's not
going to get much better. In that case he'd be REAL pissed if I asked
him to pay for it....

This is utter nonsense. Having been involved in five beta tests, all
for sims, NONE of them, not a one has been changed radically in the
weeks prior to release. In fact most of them were massively playable
and with most features intact from the first pre-alpha test versions.

Perhaps unfair and I'll leave the anti-piracy m***high-ground
grabbing antics well alone, but it's also extremely misleading to make
statements of purported fact about a product which you've never seen.

Misleading info arising from what is _perhaps_ incomplete code,
although how incomplete is far from clear. That at least is better to
know that misleading info arising from no code whatsoever, no?

Going on what everyone has said up until now, I'll be making a longer
drive than normal to buy it from a shop that accepts returns - that is
why I appreciate the warez comments. I personally believe it'll be
good, but when people here whose opinions I respect very much get THAT
disappointed, I take notice.

Yes, it's also the name of a program which depicts all the times when
things were far from allright on the night....

John

Daniel

The worst thing about warez

by Daniel » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

So.... what version does the warez-exe show then???

Andre Warrin

The worst thing about warez

by Andre Warrin » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:51:45 +0200, "Jan Verschueren"


>LOL... my words to Andre aren't even cold and they're already at it.

>Jan./one week until a major reality check guys.

LOL, I hope we both will be proven wrong Jan...
But I'm affraid we won't. We're never wrong :)

Andre

Chris Wrigh

The worst thing about warez

by Chris Wrigh » Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:00:00

This whole warez fiasco has really tarnished the build up to next Friday for
the entire r.a.s/race sim community.

For goodness sake, this is apparently old code which is clearly "work in
progress" rather than the finished article.

Those of you who have downloaded the game should ask yourselves if you'd be
happy with your customers/boss receiving your work before it was ready for
consumption - of course you wouldn't!

Anyone who is involved in producing computer software knows that a project
can still resemble a dog's dinner even just prior to completion - it's the
nature of the beast so to speak. So in the case of GP3, those who have the
warez copy are, at best viewing the development team's "dirty laundry" as it
were - it is completely unfair to the guys and gals who have worked long
hours for our *** pleasure - to say nothing of the piracy issues.

Someone posted on r.a.s that we should stop pontificating on morals re:GP3
warez. This is not a m***issue, it's a simple matter of misleading info
arising from incomplete code.

The only time to pass judgement on the efforts of Team Crammond will be next
Friday morning, when the finished code is safely stored on our hard drives.

Has no-one ever heard the old theatrical phrase "It'll be alright on the
night"?

Jan Loebzie

The worst thing about warez

by Jan Loebzie » Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 22:11:49 +0100, "Tim Wheatley"


>then it's the final readme version, hexscan the exe and you'll see the exe
>is not 1.0

That's right, it's actually "1.00".
Mikkel Gram-Hanse

The worst thing about warez

by Mikkel Gram-Hanse » Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Hey hey easy there, take it out on someone else, we are at leat not last in
the GPL Ranking anymore ;)

Mikkel

David Butte

The worst thing about warez

by David Butte » Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:00:00




>> "There's something rotten in the state of Denmark"......

>Hey hey easy there, take it out on someone else, we are at leat not
>last in the GPL Ranking anymore ;)

You are again now - those damn Yanks have been practising :-(

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David. (GPLRank handicap: -1.01)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Chris Wrigh

The worst thing about warez

by Chris Wrigh » Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:00:00

This whole warez fiasco has really tarnished the build up to next Friday for
the entire r.a.s/race sim community.

For goodness sake, this is apparently old code which is clearly "work in
progress" rather than the finished article.

Those of you who have downloaded the game should ask yourselves if you'd be
happy with your customers/boss receiving your work before it was ready for
consumption - of course you wouldn't!

Anyone who is involved in producing computer software knows that a project
can still resemble a dog's dinner even just prior to completion - it's the
nature of the beast so to speak. So in the case of GP3, those who have the
warez copy are, at best viewing the development team's "dirty laundry" as it
were - it is completely unfair to the guys and gals who have worked long
hours for our *** pleasure - to say nothing of the piracy issues.

Someone posted on r.a.s that we should stop pontificating on morals re:GP3
warez. This is not a m***issue, it's a simple matter of misleading info
arising from incomplete code.

The only time to pass judgement on the efforts of Team Crammond will be next
Friday morning, when the finished code is safely stored on our hard drives.

Has no-one ever heard the old theatrical phrase "It'll be alright on the
night"?


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