rec.autos.simulators

Why so much praise over RBR?

cron

Why so much praise over RBR?

by cron » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 06:48:59

No menu mouse support
Average graphics
Half-baked***pit view
Poor performance
Bug Ridden
Steering lag
Jan Verschuere

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Jan Verschuere » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:03:53

no joystick support either... which is good.

Yet still managing to make CMR05 look garish and artificial

apart from the viewpoint not being adjustable in-game, it's fucntional
enough.

Not an issue, anything that will run F1C and NR2003 will also run RBR, but I
have to admit I would have liked to be able to tweak more parameters.

Eh? -Haven't encountered a bug yet.

not enough PC horsepower for the settings you're running. If I crank it up
to 1024x768x32 with all the bells and whistles on, it lags for me too, so I
use less eyecandy.

You did forget to mention the loading times for the stages (takes ages,
regardless of lenght) and the annoying fact you can't quit directly to main
menu if you need to leave the game in a hurry (to access other stuff on your
PC) while on a stage.

Jan.
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Malc

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Malc » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:01:17


Graphics are good enough to capture the imagination, if you have time to
look around (and inside the car) you aren't trying hard enough ;-)

Performance is fine on a relatively recent spec PC, it's a damn sight
more stable than any other off the shelf title I've bought recently, and
I have no idea what you mean by steering lag, unless you are talking
about understeer.

For me the menu system is plain irritating & I don't think much of the
replay system either, but all this and more is more than compensated for
by the driving experience imo.

It's far from a perfect game, but it's a great rally sim.

Malc.

Mike Beaucham

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Mike Beaucham » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:09:37

- since when is the menu the biggest concern in a game?

- maybe your system just isn't up to the task? The graphics look amazing in
my opinion. Realistic colours, no overdone lens and sun flares or plastic
looking cars with too much reflection.

- If you are worried about the position of the view, there are .ini files
that you can modify to your liking. Move the view up, change the FOV, etc.
If it is the graphics you are worried about in the***pit view then I call
that a bad citicism.. look OUT the window :)

- again, maybe your system isn't up to the task? Runs great over here...

- Personally the only bug that has pissed me off so far is the
no-wheel-turn-in-replay bug. i know there are some others, but I have yet to
be hit by any of them. Obviously a patch will be coming..

- once again, maybe your system isn't up to the task? If you're running it
at a shitty framerate, then there's going to be some lag. But with my USB
wheel and pedals I get absolutely no lag..

Mike
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Mike Beaucham

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Mike Beaucham » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:25:19

Hmmm.. odd, it takes like 10 seconds to load stages over here. 1024ram..
maybe that's the difference? One of my complements for the game is the fact
that stages load up so quickly!

Charli

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Charli » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:10:23


> No menu mouse support
> Average graphics
> Half-baked***pit view
> Poor performance
> Bug Ridden
> Steering lag

because not everyone has your issues with it?  the graphics look
phenomenal to me, it runs smoothly on my cheap-ish system with a bottom
of the range video card, and steers better than any game I've played
before.  the bugs and menu system are annoying, the***pit view doesn't
bother me, there are mods out there to fix it if you want.

Charlie

EL

Why so much praise over RBR?

by EL » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:29:27

Get a new rig <g>

EL


Jan Verschuere

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Jan Verschuere » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:33:38

512MB of RAM here and stages take minutes to load from disk when first
attempting them in any mode. When "restarting" stages in the quick rally or
Richard Burns Challange mode things move a lot quicker (cached in RAM,
probably).

Admittently, RBR rests on a 4200rpm 40GB IDE drive in my config, but I still
think it's a bit excessive.

Jan,
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Arne Martin G??ettle

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Arne Martin G??ettle » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:28:25


>>Bug Ridden

> Eh? -Haven't encountered a bug yet.

two for me. no force feedback, and no turning front wheels. both seem to
affect quite a few people.

fairly fast for me. 10 seconds or so.

ALT+F4 does that. just remember to save first.

--
am

Charli

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Charli » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:24:26


> 512MB of RAM here and stages take minutes to load from disk when first
> attempting them in any mode. When "restarting" stages in the quick rally or
> Richard Burns Challange mode things move a lot quicker (cached in RAM,
> probably).

> Admittently, RBR rests on a 4200rpm 40GB IDE drive in my config, but I still
> think it's a bit excessive.

512mb ram here and a standard 80gb hd, stage loading times are not a
noticeable problem... I'd be surprised if if was 10 seconds.  I wonder
if somethings wrong on your system... is dma enabled on that drive?

Charlie

Mitch_

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Mitch_ » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:14:38

Isnt a 4200 RPM drive out of a laptop which have notoriously slow
controllers/HD anyway?  Hardly typical regardless.

Mitch



>> 512MB of RAM here and stages take minutes to load from disk when first
>> attempting them in any mode. When "restarting" stages in the quick rally
>> or
>> Richard Burns Challange mode things move a lot quicker (cached in RAM,
>> probably).

>> Admittently, RBR rests on a 4200rpm 40GB IDE drive in my config, but I
>> still
>> think it's a bit excessive.

> 512mb ram here and a standard 80gb hd, stage loading times are not a
> noticeable problem... I'd be surprised if if was 10 seconds.  I wonder
> if somethings wrong on your system... is dma enabled on that drive?

> Charlie

Destro

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Destro » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:16:42

Loading times are less than 5 sec here. To the OP who has a long load,
check your system.
eppy

Why so much praise over RBR?

by eppy » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:46:22

Something's wrong there. It takes about 5-6 seconds to load each stage from
disk, and about 4-5 seconds from cache (memory) on further runes. This is on
15,000 RPM SCSI disks in a RAID array with an adaptec SCSI RAID Controller
with 128MB cache (all from a server I found in a skip :-)

I've also got some 7200RPM ATA drives installed in my system, and find that
the SCSI disk array is only about 20-30% faster in real world terms when
doing sequential reads like load a stage (though i/o performance is
phenomenal). As such, I would expect RBR to take no longer than about 8
seconds to load a stage from disk on the ATA drive.

Have you considered defragging your HD? Are you sure that your ATA/IDE
driver is configured for BUS mastering?
Tim


Steve Simpso

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Steve Simpso » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:04:54

Yes, load times are less than 5 secs for me too...Seagate Barracuda 120GB
7200rpm.  Pretty good considering how many tree textures etc there are.

Steve Simpso

Why so much praise over RBR?

by Steve Simpso » Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:13:55


^^
That was something posted by 'cronik' a few months ago...

http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=4765eb5e.0405...

Should explain this thread...


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