rec.autos.simulators

by **Wosc** » Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I think that what is the thing is that it is an easy game to drive around
in, you can jump in and easily turn laps, but people struggle with getting
that last seconds to be competetive with the hotlappers.

Jesse

>> N2 is easy, sorry. Especially the arcade mode.

>Heheheh you don't want to go there with me :)

>In regards to the arcade mode, it probably isn't too "Easy" for the
>first time user which is what market IMHO will be purchasing this
>product over the next 5 years.

>The KEY will be the success of having those first time users take the
>game and continue to use it. Sell add ons, more tracks etc....Get
>online, use NROS etc...

>But if N2 is easy, then why do we still see sooo many people on NROS
>that struggle at some tracks 3-5 years after the original physics engine
>was created? I would assume that if the physics engine was that easy we
>would see people running the same speeds as you. OH, I forgot they
>already are ROFLMAO.... Teasing BTW :)

>Bill / Amish on TEN

by **Bill Bollinge** » Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> I think that what is the thing is that it is an easy game to drive around
> in, you can jump in and easily turn laps, but people struggle with getting
> that last seconds to be competetive with the hotlappers.

> Jesse

That is exactly what I want to continue. I feel that if the game is too
difficult to even drive arround then that will cause problems in the long run.

Bill / Amish on TEN

by **Kirk Lan** » Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:00:00

This is true, but then again, GPL isn't for the masses. Honestly, how many
people here could actually name some drivers from '67 besides Clark,
Brabham, and Hulme before they got GPL? I guarantee you that most of the
people out there buying sims today aren't even old enough to remember or
even know of them (I'm one...my dad was my age the year Clark died, and I'm
15)

Besides, there are a lot of people (myself included) coming out of the
arcades from playing Indy 500, Ridge Racer, Crusin' USA and the like and are
looking for the same action to take home. Most can't tell you what in the
world a tie rod is or what gear ratios do. So, of course, GPL isn't for
them. N3 hopefully will be.

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>On Wed, 03 Mar 1999 00:06:21 -0600,

>> If the game is as difficult as GPL then you might as well just
>>forget seeing a Nascar Sim from Papy again. Sales as poor as GPL will not
cut it
>>for Nascar.

>My thoughts exactly.

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by **Joel Willstei** » Fri, 05 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> > Hmm...I say every simmer sends angry e-mails to Sierra. If Sierra forces Papyrus
> > to throw the physics out the window, then I'm no longer buying from
> > Sierra/Papyrus.

> Heheheh, go ahead because the other million+ people that will be buying the game
> will be laughing. If the game is as difficult as GPL then you might as well just
> forget seeing a Nascar Sim from Papy again. Sales as poor as GPL will not cut it
> for Nascar.

> Heck, some of you guys act as if Nascar2 is easy LOL.

> Bill / Amish on TEN

I was under the impression that the sales figures for GPL were
rather good. If your information is correct,just how bad are the sales
for gpl?

Joel Willstein

by **Joel Willstei** » Fri, 05 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> >Heck, some of you guys act as if Nascar2 is easy LOL.

> Compared to GPL it is VERY easy.

I've been following this thread,and for an older driver (51),NAS2 is
a lot easier than gpl. But then agian,it's two completely different
forms of racing. It's was much harder to drive a 1967 F1 than driving a
WC stockcar. There are air dams and rear spoilers to help keep your car
on the track,and you just can't compare a oval to the difficulty of the
courses they drove in 67.

Joel Willstein

by **Mike Laske** » Fri, 05 Mar 1999 04:00:00

>> > Hmm...I say every simmer sends angry e-mails to Sierra. If Sierra
forces Papyrus
>> > to throw the physics out the window, then I'm no longer buying from
>> > Sierra/Papyrus.

I very much doubt Papyrus will be throwing their physics model out the
window, regardless of the opinion of anyone. If Sierra don't like it, I
guess you might find a 2nd easy/arcade physics model as a subset of the
current one, or alternatively, there might be a market for professional
racing simulators - the kind that few if any here could even begin to
afford.

Mike.

by **Larr** » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

It is :)

-Larry

> N2 is still BIG FUN, but the driving model feels like, well, it's a
> generation behind GPL! ;-)

by **Larr** » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Or a new marketer...

Personally, I'd rather give my money directly to Papyrus anyway...

-Larry

> I very much doubt Papyrus will be throwing their physics model out the
> window, regardless of the opinion of anyone. If Sierra don't like it, I
> guess you might find a 2nd easy/arcade physics model as a subset of the
> current one, or alternatively, there might be a market for professional
> racing simulators - the kind that few if any here could even begin to
> afford.

> Mike.

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