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by **Eldre** » Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:00:00

>> >Easy. If others can attain such speed thru the corner, it's do-able.
>> >There can only be one of 2 problems then, line or setup. Or a
>> >combination thereof.

>> But I've had times where using the exact same setup, on the same
>> line(seemingly), I couldn't match the speed.

>The difference might be any number of things. Are you turning in soon
>enough? Too soon? Maybe you just weigh more than Gregor :-). Or maybe the
>tires weren't up to temp yet? Are you trailbraking the same on entry? Gas-on
>and balancing at the same points? I keep hoping my infinite permutations of
>these combine one day into the perfect lap, and then I'll post new PB's.

>Michael.

Who knows? I've had times where I've run 50 laps at once. The laps are all in
the same area timewise, unless I try to push somewhere. Then I crash. For
example, I ran about 270 laps at Watkins a few months ago. I lowered my PB by
.44 seconds - from 1:07.61 to 1:07.17. Obviously, I'm not doing the right
things, but I'll be damned if I can figure it out. I've hit the same wall at
all the other tracks, too. Except the Ring - I still haven't had a clean lap
at speed. With the others, I don't know what else to do. I may just have to
accept that I can't get any better, and be content with being a rolling chicane
on VROC...

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:00:00

>atclear.nospam.ie> writes

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>>But All I can put the Lotus and Ferrari times down to is a poor set-up, yet
>>they claim to be from people who can do 1.18's, etc....
>>I didn't notice the great amount of understerr until I tried the eagle
>>set-ups.

>>So 2 questions to finish this off?
>>Are some people bluffing and putting out bad set-ups.
>>And secondly does anyone know where to pick up some genuinely good
>>set-ups
>>as the ones I have don' seem to be up to much.

>I can certainly vouch for the Kyalami Lotus setups. Without them I
>would still be doing 1:20 laps with my own setups. :)
>--
>Peter Ives

Peter, I'd even setlle for *your* setups. I'm still at 1:23 at Kyalami... :(

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by **Gregor Vebl** » Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:00:00

> Who knows? I've had times where I've run 50 laps at once. The laps are all in
> the same area timewise, unless I try to push somewhere. Then I crash. For
> example, I ran about 270 laps at Watkins a few months ago. I lowered my PB by
> .44 seconds - from 1:07.61 to 1:07.17. Obviously, I'm not doing the right
> things, but I'll be damned if I can figure it out. I've hit the same wall at
> all the other tracks, too. Except the Ring - I still haven't had a clean lap
> at speed. With the others, I don't know what else to do. I may just have to
> accept that I can't get any better, and be content with being a rolling chicane
> on VROC...

> Eldred
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> Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
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> Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you
> with experience...
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This sounds like a setup flaw. Mind you, I am not much faster, but I do
know how to set up my car so that it suits me. See another post of mine
in this thread regarding the setups. On some circuits like Kyalami the
high coast ramp angle value is of great importance, while in Monza the
traction is what is needed. I used to run a 60/60 setup with 3 clutches
before, but the car was too twitchy when coming out of the corners. I
decreased the number of clutches to 1, and got about 2 tenths of a
second in Monza immediately, as the traction out of the second Lesmo was
improved dramatically. This did not happen at the start of my GPL
career, but only a couple of months ago.

-Gregor

by **Peter Ive** » Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:00:00

<snip>

I think we all reach that point eventually, where for some reason or
another, although we know that there is a better lap in there somewhere,
it just won't come out despite our best efforts. About a month ago I
did a 1:25.75 at Monaco and then this week I went out and improved on it
by a miserly .06 down to 1:25.69. However, when I compared the 2 laps
in replay analyser I discovered that the original 1:25.75 was over half
a second up going into tabac and that I lost all that time in the last 2
corners to end up with the 1:25.75.

Despite this knowledge though, and looking at that replay over and over,
I've have been unable to come close to matching it over the first 3/4 of
the lap and I've must have done another 150 laps at Monaco since this
realisation.

In other words, it's not the setup (that's the same), it is my driving
that is preventing me from putting that first 3/4 type lap together like
before and then getting the last 2 bends like in the 2nd hotlap and
ending up with a low 1:25. Frustration doesn't even come close. :(
--
Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

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by **Peter Ive** » Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:00:00

> where do you get these setups? I'm still in 1.34s/wl

The hotshoe setups? Try http://www.parc-ferme.de/

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