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N4 - No in-game save?

markgam

N4 - No in-game save?

by markgam » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:53:52

Paul Newman did well there a couple of years ago, and he was 76 at the time.
What's your point?





> >>Maybe he could mention his PB at the 'Ring?

> >Maybe he doesn't give a damn about the ring..

> Actually, I guess he could post his PB from the real-life
> Daytona 24 Hour where he finished in the top 10, in his
> first time out.



> >>> No shit.
> >>> He is listed in N4's credits.  What do you think he is going to say ?

> >>> --



> >>> > Because maybe he's being paid for his opinions? ;-)



> >>> > > > ... but those looking for high realism may want to hold
> >>> > > > off on spending those sheckles just yet."

> >>> > > > Comments?

> >>> > > Yeah, I'd comment that Dale Earnhardt Jr disagrees:

> >>> > > "Ive been asked many times how close these games come to real
life. N4
> >>> is
> >>> > > all over it. My first wakeup call while playing the game was the
> >>effects
> >>> > > changes to the setup had on my car. Someone did there homework
here.
> >>You
> >>> > > will experience much more body roll than in the past games of the
> >>Nascar
> >>> > > series. Something else we havent seen in the past is the real to
life
> >>at
> >>> > > times aggrivating pull to the left caster setting. Yes, this is
the
> >>way
> >>> > our
> >>> > > cars drive every week. It is caused by the frontend settings,
mainly
> >>> > caster.
> >>> > > Closing the caster split will reduce this effect but tighten the
car
> >>up
> >>> on
> >>> > > entrance of the corner. Everything in the game seems to have been
> >>beefed
> >>> > up,
> >>> > > from the setup screen to the draft effects. With the two tracks in
the
> >>> > demo,
> >>> > > we can see some that some gains have been made on realism and
> >>geometry."

> >>> > > Dale Jr, I've heard of. Greg Driskell I have not.

Simon Brow

N4 - No in-game save?

by Simon Brow » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:35:58

Just pointing out that it doesn't reduce realism as far as I can see.


Kai Fulle

N4 - No in-game save?

by Kai Fulle » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:53:08

Well he wrote that for blackhole Motorsports, NOT for papy.

Are you challenging BHMS credibility, OR DE J. Honesty?

This is obviously presented as an objective article, and lets not get all
cynical here, he's been racing Nascar games for years, and has had good
things to say, he's also had good comments about Nascar Heat and DTR, he
can't be on the payroll of all of them.

give me a break.


> No shit.
> He is listed in N4's credits.  What do you think he is going to say ?

> --



> > Because maybe he's being paid for his opinions? ;-)



> > > > ... but those looking for high realism may want to hold
> > > > off on spending those sheckles just yet."

> > > > Comments?

> > > Yeah, I'd comment that Dale Earnhardt Jr disagrees:

> > > "Ive been asked many times how close these games come to real life. N4
> is
> > > all over it. My first wakeup call while playing the game was the
effects
> > > changes to the setup had on my car. Someone did there homework here.
You
> > > will experience much more body roll than in the past games of the
Nascar
> > > series. Something else we havent seen in the past is the real to life
at
> > > times aggrivating pull to the left caster setting. Yes, this is the
way
> > our
> > > cars drive every week. It is caused by the frontend settings, mainly
> > caster.
> > > Closing the caster split will reduce this effect but tighten the car
up
> on
> > > entrance of the corner. Everything in the game seems to have been
beefed
> > up,
> > > from the setup screen to the draft effects. With the two tracks in the
> > demo,
> > > we can see some that some gains have been made on realism and
geometry."

> > > Dale Jr, I've heard of. Greg Driskell I have not.

markgam

N4 - No in-game save?

by markgam » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:00:16

Wait, that DEJ of Blackhole Motorshorts is *the* DEJ? I just thought it was
someone using that screen name..

Huh... My apologies if that is true.


> Well he wrote that for blackhole Motorsports, NOT for papy.

> Are you challenging BHMS credibility, OR DE J. Honesty?

> This is obviously presented as an objective article, and lets not get all
> cynical here, he's been racing Nascar games for years, and has had good
> things to say, he's also had good comments about Nascar Heat and DTR, he
> can't be on the payroll of all of them.

> give me a break.



> > No shit.
> > He is listed in N4's credits.  What do you think he is going to say ?

> > --



> > > Because maybe he's being paid for his opinions? ;-)



> > > > > ... but those looking for high realism may want to hold
> > > > > off on spending those sheckles just yet."

> > > > > Comments?

> > > > Yeah, I'd comment that Dale Earnhardt Jr disagrees:

> > > > "Ive been asked many times how close these games come to real life.
N4
> > is
> > > > all over it. My first wakeup call while playing the game was the
> effects
> > > > changes to the setup had on my car. Someone did there homework here.
> You
> > > > will experience much more body roll than in the past games of the
> Nascar
> > > > series. Something else we havent seen in the past is the real to
life
> at
> > > > times aggrivating pull to the left caster setting. Yes, this is the
> way
> > > our
> > > > cars drive every week. It is caused by the frontend settings, mainly
> > > caster.
> > > > Closing the caster split will reduce this effect but tighten the car
> up
> > on
> > > > entrance of the corner. Everything in the game seems to have been
> beefed
> > > up,
> > > > from the setup screen to the draft effects. With the two tracks in
the
> > > demo,
> > > > we can see some that some gains have been made on realism and
> geometry."

> > > > Dale Jr, I've heard of. Greg Driskell I have not.

Intimidato

N4 - No in-game save?

by Intimidato » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:06:15

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:04:30 -0500, "Gault"




>> Just saw this over in the Roll Call at Gonegold.com

>> "Some feedback from our friend Greg Driskill tells us he found Nascar 4
>> to be disappointing. Words such as "George Jetson" and "Hovercraft" were
>> used as well as noticing there is no longer an in race save feature.
>> Greg reminded me that Nascar 2 had the same problem as far as the save
>> goes, but was later patched. I'm sure the same will eventually be true
>> for this version, but those looking for high realism may want to hold
>> off on spending those sheckles just yet."

>What's so realistic about an in-game save?

What's so realistic about sitting in front of a computer monitor,
pretending you're driving a car?
Gaul

N4 - No in-game save?

by Gaul » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:03:50


> On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:04:30 -0500, "Gault"



> >> Just saw this over in the Roll Call at Gonegold.com

> >> "Some feedback from our friend Greg Driskill tells us he found Nascar 4
> >> to be disappointing. Words such as "George Jetson" and "Hovercraft"
were
> >> used as well as noticing there is no longer an in race save feature.
> >> Greg reminded me that Nascar 2 had the same problem as far as the save
> >> goes, but was later patched. I'm sure the same will eventually be true
> >> for this version, but those looking for high realism may want to hold
> >> off on spending those sheckles just yet."

> >What's so realistic about an in-game save?

> What's so realistic about sitting in front of a computer monitor,
> pretending you're driving a car?

That question should probably be addressed to the person who originally
questioned the game's realism, as well as it's lack of in-game save.
Simon Brow

N4 - No in-game save?

by Simon Brow » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:50:32

 Just pointing out that it doesn't reduce realism as far as I can see...to
not have an in-game save that is.


> It's optional!!!!
> --
> Jagg

ymenar

N4 - No in-game save?

by ymenar » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 21:00:07


> Because maybe he's being paid for his opinions? ;-)

Dale truely thinks of this about N4.  Remember he's a member of our
community, and raced back on the NROS with us without really "getting paid".
He ain't telling you some bollocks PR stuff.  He's a geek like us.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Jeff Jone

N4 - No in-game save?

by Jeff Jone » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:48:56



> > Because maybe he's being paid for his opinions? ;-)

> Dale truely thinks of this about N4.  Remember he's a member of our
> community, and raced back on the NROS with us without really "getting
paid".
> He ain't telling you some bollocks PR stuff.  He's a geek like us.

That's what I gathered as well. I think he's a regular writer at
bhmotorsports.com too.
Mike Donnelly J

N4 - No in-game save?

by Mike Donnelly J » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:27:23

Um, I beg to differ in my opinion.  He is most definitely *NOT* like us. We
merely dream of doing this.  He actually gets to go out and do it. I envy him
the ability to do so.

That said.  I'd say Jr. is about as straight a shooter as you get outside of
Tony Stewart.  He's got no reason not to shoot straight.  He's been quoted as
using N3 (and probably soon N4) to help him prep for races.  His father remarked
upon going to one track that his soon spent his time w/ the computer running the
track, they showed up and his kid was way faster than he was.

If anyone can talk about how real it is and do so with a degree of authority, it
would be him.
(This is for the guy you were replying to as well.)



> > Because maybe he's being paid for his opinions? ;-)

> Dale truely thinks of this about N4.  Remember he's a member of our
> community, and raced back on the NROS with us without really "getting paid".
> He ain't telling you some bollocks PR stuff.  He's a geek like us.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...

Cool tagline.

Another cool one.

Eldre

N4 - No in-game save?

by Eldre » Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:09:52





>> It's realistic in the sense that we have to answer telephones, door-bells,
>> calls of nature, children's demands, etc. etc.
>> Real enough for you?

>Nope.  You can always pause it.

But *pausing* is realistic???<g>

Eldred
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Eldre

N4 - No in-game save?

by Eldre » Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:09:52





>> Just saw this over in the Roll Call at Gonegold.com

>> "Some feedback from our friend Greg Driskill tells us he found Nascar 4
>> to be disappointing. Words such as "George Jetson" and "Hovercraft" were
>> used as well as noticing there is no longer an in race save feature.
>> Greg reminded me that Nascar 2 had the same problem as far as the save
>> goes, but was later patched. I'm sure the same will eventually be true
>> for this version, but those looking for high realism may want to hold
>> off on spending those sheckles just yet."

>What's so realistic about an in-game save?

Oh geez - not *again*...

Eldred
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Larr

N4 - No in-game save?

by Larr » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:27:40

Just call it a "Rain Delay" :)

-Larry






> >> It's realistic in the sense that we have to answer telephones,
door-bells,
> >> calls of nature, children's demands, etc. etc.
> >> Real enough for you?

> >Nope.  You can always pause it.

> But *pausing* is realistic???<g>

> Eldred
> --
> Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73

> Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Gaul

N4 - No in-game save?

by Gaul » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:30:05






> >> It's realistic in the sense that we have to answer telephones,
door-bells,
> >> calls of nature, children's demands, etc. etc.
> >> Real enough for you?

> >Nope.  You can always pause it.

> But *pausing* is realistic???<g>

Hehe...nope.  But it would help with his real world intrusions.
Gaul

N4 - No in-game save?

by Gaul » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:31:11






> >> Just saw this over in the Roll Call at Gonegold.com

> >> "Some feedback from our friend Greg Driskill tells us he found Nascar 4
> >> to be disappointing. Words such as "George Jetson" and "Hovercraft"
were
> >> used as well as noticing there is no longer an in race save feature.
> >> Greg reminded me that Nascar 2 had the same problem as far as the save
> >> goes, but was later patched. I'm sure the same will eventually be true
> >> for this version, but those looking for high realism may want to hold
> >> off on spending those sheckles just yet."

> >What's so realistic about an in-game save?

> Oh geez - not *again*...

Hey, when somebody whines about realism and a lack of in-game save, the
question has to be asked. :-)

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