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Peter Gag

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by Peter Gag » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00



> One assumes that you meant "libel"?
> Why would they be sued for libel, anyway? Who have they libelled?
> Misrepresented, maybe, but hardly a case of libel, surely?

Oops! ok you got me there? I meant libel.

8-)

Your right the publishers have *probably* not libelled anyone, I was
just exagerating my point, eg:- the fact that GC *allegedly* had agreed
to, and has given this interview, and now we have Mr Rich stating the
exact opposite to what GC *allegedly* said in the interview?

Mr Rich stated "The stories and statements on the Internet and in the UK
and US magazines are speculation and rumour" - surely this means that he
is saying the article is not correct? or, he is saying what GC
*allegedly* said was not correct?

He *must* be saying one or the other? GC appears to be saying GP3 *is*
coming, Microprose (through Mr Rich) is saying it is not!!!

Confused, you will be?

I personally put more weight behind what GC says, than what Mr Rich
says? We shall see......

8-)

*Peter*    8-)
(NB: remove asterix to e-mail)

JPS

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by JPS » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Will there be an Apple II version???


> I have been listening to all of you whine for the last two years and I
> must say I'm ***y well sick of it. "We need this and we need that.
> The program wasn't finished, bah bah bah."  I have to admit that
> Microprose was not the best choice but give me the benefit of the
> doubt, will you? I don't intend to go back to them.

> However, if you really wanted to show your support you should have
> gone out and bought the game. Shouldn't you have? I read these groups,
> and everybody seems to have a copy, but Microprose assures me that
> only 1400 copies have been sold world wide. So what am I supposed to
> do with 2500US? You had all better think about the ways in which you
> show your appreciation in the future. Hadn't you?

> For the record, GP3 is done. It's not a 3Dfx mock up of GP2. We
> started from scratch. It has full dynamic weather and a physics model
> that makes GPL look like child's play. It will run  on a 286/40 with
> 2meg ram. It does require voodoo2 though.

> You can't have one. Me and my friends are going to play all by
> ourselves. Maybe we'll post some screen shots and pictures of us in
> our Hyperstimulators, drinking Guinness.

> Maybe we won't.

> --
> Geoff Crammond
> "A lot of people think racing is about going fast. But it's not. It's
> about going just slow enough to stay on the track."

> F1RS - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~chaser/car/results.htm
> Remove us here and there to mail me.

Tim

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by Tim » Tue, 09 Jun 1998 04:00:00


>Will there be an Apple II version???

no, but there will be a version for the 3Com Palm III.
Byron Forbe

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by Byron Forbe » Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:00:00


> He *must* be saying one or the other? GC appears to be saying GP3 *is*
> coming, Microprose (through Mr Rich) is saying it is not!!!

> Confused, you will be?

> I personally put more weight behind what GC says, than what Mr Rich
> says? We shall see......

    Sounds like maybe Geoff has not told Microprose that he's given them the boot? Or
maybe Microprose think he can't even if he wants too?
Jim Dunph

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by Jim Dunph » Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Funny guy don't you think?
--
Jim Dunphy

The Pits- http://www.racesimcentral.net/



I have been listening to all of you whine for the last two years and I must
say I'm ***y well sick of it. "We need this and we need that. The program
wasn't finished, bah bah bah."  I have to admit that Microprose was not the
best choice but give me the benefit of the doubt, will you? I don't intend
to go back to them.  However, if you really wanted to show your support you
should have gone out and bought the game. Shouldn't you have? I read these
groups, and everybody seems to have a copy, but Microprose assures me that
only 1400 copies have been sold world wide. So what am I supposed to do
with 2500US? You had all better think about the ways in which you show your
appreciation in the future. Hadn't you?  For the record, GP3 is done. It's
not a 3Dfx mock up of GP2. We started from scratch. It has full dynamic
weather and a physics model that makes GPL look like child's play. It will
run  on a 286/40 with 2meg ram. It does require voodoo2 though.  You can't
have one. Me and my friends are going to play all by ourselves. Maybe we'll
post some screen shots and pictures of us in our Hyperstimulators, drinking
Guinness.  Maybe we won't.
--
Geoff Crammond
"A lot of people think racing is about going fast. But it's not. It's about
going just slow enough to stay on the track."  F1RS -
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~chaser/car/results.htm
<http://www.racesimcentral.net/~chaser/car/results.htm>
Remove us here and there to mail me.

Where is Geoff during all this? I'm sure he has access to the net and the
newsgroups, how about something from the man himself. How about it Geoff???
--
Jim Dunphy

The Pits- http://www.racesimcentral.net/



> At this time there are NO plans by either Geoff Crammond or MicroProse to
> create and publish a sequel to Grand Prix 2.
> Should Geoff Crammond decide to write another game we will publish it as
his
> exclusive publisher.
> When this happens a press release will be issued which can be read on our
> WWW site.

> The stories and statements on the Internet and in the UK and US magazines
> are speculation and rumour.
> There is NO GP3 product due in the Autumn and no racing sim under
> development at this time.

> Regards,
> Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe


> >is there any infp or anythging on it. i ave heard nothing so all those
> >of you who saw this and thought it was..sorry

> >but is there any chance of it comming ever, any time soon?

Trevor C Thoma

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by Trevor C Thoma » Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:00:00



> > He *must* be saying one or the other? GC appears to be saying GP3 *is*
> > coming, Microprose (through Mr Rich) is saying it is not!!!

> > Confused, you will be?

> > I personally put more weight behind what GC says, than what Mr Rich
> > says? We shall see......

>     Sounds like maybe Geoff has not told Microprose that he's given them the boot? Or
> maybe Microprose think he can't even if he wants too?

I sure wish someone would clear this up, first we hear "no GP3, no way,
no how" then its "oh yeah there will be one" so I wonder who is right
(hopefully the yes there will be) is correct.

I'd hate to see such an absorbing sim not be carried forward to its
potential.

Trev

Trevor C Thoma

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by Trevor C Thoma » Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:00:00


> Funny guy don't you think?
> --
> Jim Dunphy

> The Pits- http://www.theuspits.com

<utter BS snipped>

Actually I thought more stupid than funny.

Trev

Mark Ric

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by Mark Ric » Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:00:00

To All :

If this fictious product called GP3 is to be released in the Autumn, would
it not have have been an idea to publicise it big time at the recent E3 show
in the US?

As for the magazine article, you had best ask PC Format who ran it rather
than MicroProse.  We have all been told that although a future racing sim is
a possibility from Geoff, and although he is always working to improve his
product, no GP3 is being published in the forseeable future.  Our internal
UK Studio artists who helped create the graphics for GP2 are all currently
working on the next XCOM title which will be released at the end of the
year.  They are NOT currently working on a GP3 which they would have to be
if it were being launched in a few months (according to the magazines).

We all understand the frustration that you all feel about wanting another
racing sim.  GP2 was very popular and sold well over a million units
worldwide and we received a great many "thank you" letters and calls to us
but no development work is underway for another racing sim at this time and
as has been said many many times before, when we do publically annouce that
a new sim will be developed a press release will be issued on our WWW site.
Another thing to consider is the average development time needed for a game
is 18 months to 3 years.  Also the cost of a licence from FOCA for the
product is a lot of money.  This licence would be needed before we could
release the program, if we had one.

Just to recap, NO GP3 at this time.

Regards,
Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe



>> He *must* be saying one or the other? GC appears to be saying GP3 *is*
>> coming, Microprose (through Mr Rich) is saying it is not!!!

>> Confused, you will be?

>> I personally put more weight behind what GC says, than what Mr Rich
>> says? We shall see......

>    Sounds like maybe Geoff has not told Microprose that he's given them
the boot? Or
>maybe Microprose think he can't even if he wants too?

Mark Ric

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by Mark Ric » Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:00:00

To All :

If this fictious product called GP3 is to be released in the Autumn, would
it not have have been an idea to publicise it big time at the recent E3 show
in the US?

As for the magazine article, you had best ask PC Format who ran it rather
than MicroProse.  We have all been told that although a future racing sim is
a possibility from Geoff, and although he is always working to improve his
product, no GP3 is being published in the forseeable future.  Our internal
UK Studio artists who helped create the graphics for GP2 are all currently
working on the next XCOM title which will be released at the end of the
year.  They are NOT currently working on a GP3 which they would have to be
if it were being launched in a few months (according to the magazines).

We all understand the frustration that you all feel about wanting another
racing sim.  GP2 was very popular and sold well over a million units
worldwide and we received a great many "thank you" letters and calls to us
but no development work is underway for another racing sim at this time and
as has been said many many times before, when we do publically annouce that
a new sim will be developed a press release will be issued on our WWW site.
Another thing to consider is the average development time needed for a game
is 18 months to 3 years.  Also the cost of a licence from FOCA for the
product is a lot of money.  This licence would be needed before we could
release the program, if we had one.

Just to recap, NO GP3 at this time.

Regards,
Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe



>> He *must* be saying one or the other? GC appears to be saying GP3 *is*
>> coming, Microprose (through Mr Rich) is saying it is not!!!

>> Confused, you will be?

>> I personally put more weight behind what GC says, than what Mr Rich
>> says? We shall see......

>    Sounds like maybe Geoff has not told Microprose that he's given them
the boot? Or
>maybe Microprose think he can't even if he wants too?


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