rec.autos.simulators

> Papyrus though is a US company and has always focused on US motorsports
(as
> far as I know).  One other problem I have with F1 ( A HUGE one if you ask
> me) is that F1 does not allow multiplayer over the internet in its
licensing
> deals AFAIK.  IF this is the case...  There is NO way I would purchase a
sim
> like this.   Im an online multiplayer racer.  GP3 could make GPL look like
> Pole Position, but if it doesnt offer internet multiplayer capability, it
> wont stay on my machine.  I never even purchased N99 because of this exact
> reason.

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> > On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:50:49 GMT, "Scott B. Husted"

> > >The problem (or benefit if you are a NASCAR fan like myself) is that
> > >NASCAR sells.  Here in the United States, the market for such a sim is
> > >MUCH larger than any other form of racing, particularly F1.  The
CART/IRL
> > >split didn't help matters much for the open wheel crowd here in the US.
> > >As much as we are all sim lovers and fans, sometimes we all forget that
> > >the companies distributing these titles are corporations in BUSINESS to
> > >make money.  (Or if you want to get to the nitty...  Maximize
> Shareholders
> > >wealth).   If I'm a shareholder... I want them to maximinize profits,
not
> > >satisfy the wants of a small niche that might be a break even
proposition
> > >or even if profitable, probably not so to the extent of NASCAR here in
> the
> > >US.

> > Scott,

> > I agree with the last part of your comments, "maximize sharholder
> > wealth".  But, Havas (their parent) is an international company and
> > the world market for racing games  to me would point to F1 (albit
> > modern). GP1(world circuit) and GP2 were huge commercial successes.

> > I somehow feel that they have become the Betamax company in a VHS
> > world.

> > Jeff

> Not to mention that if it is simulated accurately, will be a tremendous
> learning curve. I believe because of the level of difficulty in passing and
> how delicate the cars are. Online play will be just as boring as the real
> thing with single file races.

> --
> Kevin Anderson


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> > Jeffrey,

> > Papyrus though is a US company and has always focused on US motorsports
> (as
> > far as I know).  One other problem I have with F1 ( A HUGE one if you ask
> > me) is that F1 does not allow multiplayer over the internet in its
> licensing
> > deals AFAIK.  IF this is the case...  There is NO way I would purchase a
> sim
> > like this.   Im an online multiplayer racer.  GP3 could make GPL look like
> > Pole Position, but if it doesnt offer internet multiplayer capability, it
> > wont stay on my machine.  I never even purchased N99 because of this exact
> > reason.

> > --
> > Scott B. Husted
> > "PA-Scott"
> > COO
> > MMMGI
> > ICQ# 4395450

> > http://www.MMMGI.com
> > http://www.Acrotech.net
> > http://www.Powersims.com
> > http://www.InternetMotorsports.net


> > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:50:49 GMT, "Scott B. Husted"

> > > >The problem (or benefit if you are a NASCAR fan like myself) is that
> > > >NASCAR sells.  Here in the United States, the market for such a sim is
> > > >MUCH larger than any other form of racing, particularly F1.  The
> CART/IRL
> > > >split didn't help matters much for the open wheel crowd here in the US.
> > > >As much as we are all sim lovers and fans, sometimes we all forget that
> > > >the companies distributing these titles are corporations in BUSINESS to
> > > >make money.  (Or if you want to get to the nitty...  Maximize
> > Shareholders
> > > >wealth).   If I'm a shareholder... I want them to maximinize profits,
> not
> > > >satisfy the wants of a small niche that might be a break even
> proposition
> > > >or even if profitable, probably not so to the extent of NASCAR here in
> > the
> > > >US.

> > > Scott,

> > > I agree with the last part of your comments, "maximize sharholder
> > > wealth".  But, Havas (their parent) is an international company and
> > > the world market for racing games  to me would point to F1 (albit
> > > modern). GP1(world circuit) and GP2 were huge commercial successes.

> > > I somehow feel that they have become the Betamax company in a VHS
> > > world.

> > > Jeff

> Ymenard, depends on your point of view.  Until they get EVERYTHING **I**
> want in a NASCAR sim, I don't think they're done (I know that's very
> self-centered).  I'm still waiting for pit stalls based on qualifying and
> EVERY NASCAR track, and 6 degrees of movement.  I could probably forgo most
> of the other omissions.
> It's just lucky for ME that I don't care about open wheel racing - but I can
> empathize with those of you THAT DO, 'cause I'd be pissed if the last 7 were
> open wheel games instead of NASCAR.

> Gunner

> As they normally do each year, you will probably have something during the
> Daytona Speedweeks, where Papyrus and Sierra Sports will give to the press
> their 2000 lineup.  Which will include two Stock-car titles (the Truck
> expansion pack for N3 and Nascar Racing 4 using the GPL game engine).
> Unfortunately, there has been no clue at all if they will stop milking
money
> out of stockcar games, but let's hope, remember 7 out of the 8 last
Papyrus
> titles have been NASCAR ones.  Enough is enough.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...

> "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."