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Papy Track Tools Released

Peter Fo

Papy Track Tools Released

by Peter Fo » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 08:58:53


> > Great, I can't wait for a thousand crappy tracks to appear online.
> > They should have left it for use to amateur groups with realism at heart.

"I posted on the PWF forum about the possibility of that group
creating and releasing updated versions of the Papy tracks. In
addition to adding a high line to the SS tracks they could put in,
say, 3D crowds and make other graphical enhancements. They would have
the advantage of issuing from a quasi official source and could be
adapted seamlessly by leagues and the online community. And they do
great work.

What I see taking shapes are leagues with multiple racing
classifications- cup, gns, cts- following the racing schedule for each
category. Which is why it's mystifying that PWF would take the trouble
to produce a track like Thompson Speedway which is currently
unutilized by any of the three magor classifications. I predict once
the novelty wears off this track, as well done as it is, will see
little racing online. Who races Hillside? The leagues don't. My
preference is for the actual tracks used by the Big 3 polished to the
max. Any thoughts?"

Phillip Malphrus, Jr

Papy Track Tools Released

by Phillip Malphrus, Jr » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 11:06:52

just dont download the track if it is crappy ... you dont have to play it
...



> > I haven't seen any talk of this, but project wildfire released papy's
> > track tools today.  Hopefully some of the more prominent GPL track
> > builders will pick it up. =)

> Great, I can't wait for a thousand crappy tracks to appear online.

> They should have left it for use to amateur groups with realism at heart.

> :-/

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 12:56:03

And just which omnipotent being determines the chosen from the rejected,
Francois?
The Pope? You? The Queen of Sheba?

As I said: Get a grip.

Bruce.


Bruce Kennewel

Papy Track Tools Released

by Bruce Kennewel » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 12:58:23

Demonstrating your awesome command of the English language once again,
Frankie, or simply the fact that you vocabulary of Anglo-Saxon expletives is
right up there with the best of them?

Bruce.


Bruce Kennewel

Papy Track Tools Released

by Bruce Kennewel » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 13:01:07

Now as far as I can determine, what you typed indicates that you feel that
the GPL community is neither greater than nor less than the NASCAR
community?

That right, or is it some secret Masonic symbolism?

Bruce.


Ruud Dingeman

Papy Track Tools Released

by Ruud Dingeman » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 16:36:40


> But how else do the tools get into the hands of the odd genius who can
> greate the likes of "The Isle of Man",  recently released for GPL ?

Yeah - and, for that matter, could these tools be used to make tracks
for GPL as well?

I mean, if this is an updated version of Papy's older tools...  (?)

Regards, Rudy

ymenar

Papy Track Tools Released

by ymenar » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 23:05:36


> Demonstrating your awesome command of the English language once again,
> Frankie, or simply the fact that you vocabulary of Anglo-Saxon expletives
is
> right up there with the best of them?

"that you vocabulary" ??

FFS Bruce, check your own post before saying such things to me.  Hypocrite.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ymenar

Papy Track Tools Released

by ymenar » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 23:06:44


> That right, or is it some secret Masonic symbolism?

<>  = Different from, not equal.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ymenar

Papy Track Tools Released

by ymenar » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 23:08:44


> just dont download the track if it is crappy ... you dont have to play it
> ...

Another one who doesn't "get it".  It's all about the community having some
kind of structure, especially the Nascar multiplayer community (which is as
chaotic as you can ever get).

<sigh>

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Marc Collin

Papy Track Tools Released

by Marc Collin » Wed, 03 Sep 2003 12:15:07

No, you're not missing a subtle point.  Your point is valid and I agree
100%.

Marc





> > > Oh, get a grip, for Chrissakes, Fran?ois.

> > You just don't get my meta-point, Bruce.  Trust me, herds of NR2003
users,
> > creating tracks, is hell on earth.

> > But hey, some of us have discussed, seriously, about such philosophical
> > points years and years ago.  I won't go into that another time, but I
must
> > repeat that imho, public tools for track creation is a bad idea.  Just
> shoot
> > another one-liner if that's all you can do.
> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>

> But how else do the tools get into the hands of the odd genius who can
> greate the likes of "The Isle of Man",  recently released for GPL ?

> Sure most people lack the talent necessary for such a creaton but I'd
gladly
> sift through tons of garbage to find the odd jewel.   ;o)

> Or am I missing a more subtle point ?

> Elrikk

Bruce Kennewel

Papy Track Tools Released

by Bruce Kennewel » Wed, 03 Sep 2003 13:24:19

Ever heard of the term "typographical error", Frankie? (Or , in my case, the
fact that I have to BANG on the 'r' and 'k' keys in order to get them to
register!)

I believe that even the best spell-checkers and dictionaries will accept the
word "you" as being correctly spelt.

Bruce.


Hypocrite.

Bruce Kennewel

Papy Track Tools Released

by Bruce Kennewel » Wed, 03 Sep 2003 13:28:34

Oh, we "get it", orright, Frank.
It's called "freedom to choose"; all about the community having a choice and
I'm sure that even you could put it into operation with some success.

Bruce.


ymenar

Papy Track Tools Released

by ymenar » Wed, 03 Sep 2003 14:06:52


> Oh, we "get it", orright, Frank.
> It's called "freedom to choose"; all about the community having a choice
and
> I'm sure that even you could put it into operation with some success.

I didn't know Bruce was an anarchist.  I can stretch it out as much as you
do.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ymenar

Papy Track Tools Released

by ymenar » Wed, 03 Sep 2003 14:08:02


> Ever heard of the term "typographical error", Frankie?

Oh stop being an hypocrite.  You've, in the past, tried to correct me
numberous times, yet you now feel defensive when it happens to you.  Ah, I'm
so sorry.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Mar

Papy Track Tools Released

by Mar » Wed, 03 Sep 2003 16:24:42



> > Demonstrating your awesome command of the English language once again,
> > Frankie, or simply the fact that you vocabulary of Anglo-Saxon expletives
>  is
> > right up there with the best of them?

> "that you vocabulary" ??

> FFS Bruce, check your own post before saying such things to me.  Hypocrite.

That would be a spelling mistake, ymenard, not a vocabulary issue.

What a sin.

Have a nice day.

Mark


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