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The Pits' Daytona Project

ROSC

The Pits' Daytona Project

by ROSC » Sun, 23 Mar 1997 04:00:00


I am disspointed by Daytona Speedway's haggling of the freeware Daytona
track made by the pits.  They want to sue them for the track.  But it
ain't fair.  If only they could give us copies with a different track
name, then we can rename it with a secret utility.  Also, I'd like to see
a version for ICR2.

David Gar

The Pits' Daytona Project

by David Gar » Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:00:00



> I am disspointed by Daytona Speedway's haggling of the freeware Daytona
> track made by the pits.  They want to sue them for the track.  But it
> ain't fair.  If only they could give us copies with a different track
> name, then we can rename it with a secret utility.  Also, I'd like to see
> a version for ICR2.

Sue them for what? They made no money of the track. It would
be a hard case to stand up in court and I would be one of the first guys
to defend "The Pits"!! Thats one site we need!!

If anyone has a url to support "The Pits" in this matter please post it!

-David Gary-

Jim Sokolo

The Pits' Daytona Project

by Jim Sokolo » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00

On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:44:17 -0500, David Gary




>> I am disspointed by Daytona Speedway's haggling of the freeware Daytona
>> track made by the pits.  They want to sue them for the track.  But it
>> ain't fair.  If only they could give us copies with a different track
>> name, then we can rename it with a secret utility.  Also, I'd like to see
>> a version for ICR2.

>Sue them for what? They made no money of the track. It would
>be a hard case to stand up in court and I would be one of the first guys
>to defend "The Pits"!! Thats one site we need!!

While I certainly wish we had Daytona available for N2, it is
International Speedway Corp.'s (owner of Daytona International
Speedway) decision to license it to whomever (including multiple
companies, or no companies) they like. They've chosen to license it to
Sega exclusively.

The mere fact that they made no money on it doesn't prevent Daytona
for suing for damages. If someone came and broke all the windows in my
house or keyed my cars, and I could identify who it was, I could sue
them for it, even though they didn't make any money on it. It's the
same basic principles of law, except the property we are dealing with
is intellectual property and not tangible, real or personal property.
It doesn't make it less valuable, just a little less obvious what the
"right" things are...

---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

Obi-Wa

The Pits' Daytona Project

by Obi-Wa » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00


> On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:44:17 -0500, David Gary



> >> I am disspointed by Daytona Speedway's haggling of the freeware Daytona
> >> track made by the pits.  They want to sue them for the track.  But it
> >> ain't fair.  If only they could give us copies with a different track
> >> name, then we can rename it with a secret utility.  Also, I'd like to see
> >> a version for ICR2.

> >Sue them for what? They made no money of the track. It would
> >be a hard case to stand up in court and I would be one of the first guys
> >to defend "The Pits"!! Thats one site we need!!

> While I certainly wish we had Daytona available for N2, it is
> International Speedway Corp.'s (owner of Daytona International
> Speedway) decision to license it to whomever (including multiple
> companies, or no companies) they like. They've chosen to license it to
> Sega exclusively.

> The mere fact that they made no money on it doesn't prevent Daytona
> for suing for damages. If someone came and broke all the windows in my
> house or keyed my cars, and I could identify who it was, I could sue
> them for it, even though they didn't make any money on it. It's the
> same basic principles of law, except the property we are dealing with
> is intellectual property and not tangible, real or personal property.
> It doesn't make it less valuable, just a little less obvious what the
> "right" things are...

> ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

Couldn't they just strip off all ID and anything that says "daytona" and
just call it a daytona-like track? If there is nothing to id it as
daytona in particular what could be there beef?

Obi-Wan

ROSC

The Pits' Daytona Project

by ROSC » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Obi-Wan says...
No.  Some guy who called his daytona "USA Speedway" was haggled by
Papyrus, but that was for a different reason.  If Daytona caught him, I
don't know.  By the way, please give me a Daytona email adress.

Christopher

JD

The Pits' Daytona Project

by JD » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00

I'd be happy for the Dayton, OH International Speedway.

Alex Santantoni

The Pits' Daytona Project

by Alex Santantoni » Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:00:00

  Obi-Wan says...
  >Couldn't they just strip off all ID and anything that says
  "daytona" and
  >just call it a daytona-like track? If there is nothing to id it as
  >daytona in particular what could be there beef?
  No.  Some guy who called his daytona "USA Speedway" was haggled by
  Papyrus, but that was for a different reason.  If Daytona caught
  him, I
  don't know.  By the way, please give me a Daytona email adress.

  Christopher

 Hey, I'm the guy that got haggled by papy for USA SPEEDWAY.  They said
that I could not post the entire DAT file.  I was also contacted by
Daytona about not releasing Dayotna.  The new USA?v2.0 is almost
done....if you want screenshots to to the NASCAR?Network's Message board
and look for the post.  I am placing 5 new screen shots tonight and in
them will be Daytona and not USA?so everyone can see what you could have
if you bombard Daytona with e-mail

Go to The NASCAR?Network for the screen shots
http://www.nascarnet.com

Alex Santantonio


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