rec.autos.simulators

> It's not the boneheads.  It's not the warps.  It's the HOSTS!

> Until we have some sort of code of conduct for hosts, we can't even begin to
> deal with the connection problems and boneheads.

> 3 out of 5 races I join terminate early because the Host gets wrecked out,
> and doesn't want to wait around for the finish.

> Or...

> The host runs his qual real quick, then jumps to race before everyone has a
> chance to qual.

> Or...

> The host starts a practice session, and then disappears.  I was in an Indy
> race with some 30+ racers, a GREAT connection, and it sat there for over 30
> min.  Everyone was ready to get such a well connected race underway, and the
> host never, once, responded to a single chat message.  Eventually, everyone
> just quit.  What a waste of a great big group and a wonderfull connection.

> Maybe someone should start a web page that's a "WON Host Hall of Fame" :)

> After a series of well run races, you could be nominated to be put on the
> page.  After the webmaster running it got enough good reports about a
> particular person, then they would be added to the Hall of Fame.

> A Hall of Shame could also included for those not so, uh, nice.

> However, this 'floating ID' problem is the killer.  I wish that WON at least
> had a login system where you had to create a proper ID, and use that ID
> every time.  Hell, if they wanted a few bucks a month to manage it, I'd pay
> it in a heartbeat.

> This one thing kills just about every idea I think of in improving WON for
> pickup races.

> -Larry

> LTB on TEN, LTB on WON.

> > Ok, folks.  I"ve about had it with WON.

> > It's not the boneheads.  It's not the warps.  It's the HOSTS!

> > Until we have some sort of code of conduct for hosts, we can't even begin to
> > deal with the connection problems and boneheads.

> > 3 out of 5 races I join terminate early because the Host gets wrecked out,
> > and doesn't want to wait around for the finish.

> > Or...

> > The host runs his qual real quick, then jumps to race before everyone has a
> > chance to qual.

> > Or...

> > The host starts a practice session, and then disappears.  I was in an Indy
> > race with some 30+ racers, a GREAT connection, and it sat there for over 30
> > min.  Everyone was ready to get such a well connected race underway, and the
> > host never, once, responded to a single chat message.  Eventually, everyone
> > just quit.  What a waste of a great big group and a wonderfull connection.

> > Maybe someone should start a web page that's a "WON Host Hall of Fame" :)

> > After a series of well run races, you could be nominated to be put on the
> > page.  After the webmaster running it got enough good reports about a
> > particular person, then they would be added to the Hall of Fame.

> > A Hall of Shame could also included for those not so, uh, nice.

> > However, this 'floating ID' problem is the killer.  I wish that WON at least
> > had a login system where you had to create a proper ID, and use that ID
> > every time.  Hell, if they wanted a few bucks a month to manage it, I'd pay
> > it in a heartbeat.

> > This one thing kills just about every idea I think of in improving WON for
> > pickup races.

> > -Larry

> > LTB on TEN, LTB on WON.

> I have had the same situation two nights ago.  Crash to desktop!! Both
times I was
> in practice and chatting between races.  Luckily I have had great success
with
> hosting and about everyone came back once I came back online.  Small
amount of
> warping, ,not a lot.  Had a great cable connection for over 5 hours last
night.

> I agree with needing etiquite, but I don't see a easy solution for this.
If you get
> a bad host, just don't go back to his races! When you get a good host,
(they're
> there!) remember them and go back. If your a clean racer, I'm sure they'll
like to
> see again.

> I did kill one race early. Killed the connection and cut everyone off!
there were
> some crashes at the start, (common) then the language got out of hand. I
believe I
> was in 4th, pulled off the track, told them I was killing it, then killed
it.  Guess
> what, everyone that was fast came back and agreed with what I did.

> NOTE TO HOSTS!
> If you crash out early or just want a break, watch the race!!  let the
guys run!!  I
> ran a 30 lap tally race last night, pulled in the pits after first lap,
and watched
> the race live from the replay screen. IT WAS AS MUCH FUN AS RACING!  and I
didn't
> leave the guys in the race (now my friends!) hang in practice.

> > I get an N3 crash at least once a night while hosting. N3 will just
crash to the
> > desktop.  So this may be the case at times.

> > > Ok, folks.  I"ve about had it with WON.

> > > It's not the boneheads.  It's not the warps.  It's the HOSTS!

> > > Until we have some sort of code of conduct for hosts, we can't even
begin to
> > > deal with the connection problems and boneheads.

> > > 3 out of 5 races I join terminate early because the Host gets wrecked
out,
> > > and doesn't want to wait around for the finish.

> > > Or...

> > > The host runs his qual real quick, then jumps to race before everyone
has a
> > > chance to qual.

> > > Or...

> > > The host starts a practice session, and then disappears.  I was in an
Indy
> > > race with some 30+ racers, a GREAT connection, and it sat there for
over 30
> > > min.  Everyone was ready to get such a well connected race underway,
and the
> > > host never, once, responded to a single chat message.  Eventually,
everyone
> > > just quit.  What a waste of a great big group and a wonderfull
connection.

> > > Maybe someone should start a web page that's a "WON Host Hall of Fame"
:)

> > > After a series of well run races, you could be nominated to be put on
the
> > > page.  After the webmaster running it got enough good reports about a
> > > particular person, then they would be added to the Hall of Fame.

> > > A Hall of Shame could also included for those not so, uh, nice.

> > > However, this 'floating ID' problem is the killer.  I wish that WON at
least
> > > had a login system where you had to create a proper ID, and use that
ID
> > > every time.  Hell, if they wanted a few bucks a month to manage it,
I'd pay
> > > it in a heartbeat.

> > > This one thing kills just about every idea I think of in improving WON
for
> > > pickup races.

> > > -Larry

> > > LTB on TEN, LTB on WON.

> > Ok, folks.  I"ve about had it with WON.

> > It's not the boneheads.  It's not the warps.  It's the HOSTS!

> > Until we have some sort of code of conduct for hosts, we can't even
begin
> to
> > deal with the connection problems and boneheads.

> > 3 out of 5 races I join terminate early because the Host gets wrecked
out,
> > and doesn't want to wait around for the finish.

> > Or...

> > The host runs his qual real quick, then jumps to race before everyone
has
> a
> > chance to qual.

> > Or...

> > The host starts a practice session, and then disappears.  I was in an
Indy
> > race with some 30+ racers, a GREAT connection, and it sat there for over
> 30
> > min.  Everyone was ready to get such a well connected race underway, and
> the
> > host never, once, responded to a single chat message.  Eventually,
> everyone
> > just quit.  What a waste of a great big group and a wonderfull
connection.

> > Maybe someone should start a web page that's a "WON Host Hall of Fame"
:)

> > After a series of well run races, you could be nominated to be put on
the
> > page.  After the webmaster running it got enough good reports about a
> > particular person, then they would be added to the Hall of Fame.

> > A Hall of Shame could also included for those not so, uh, nice.

> > However, this 'floating ID' problem is the killer.  I wish that WON at
> least
> > had a login system where you had to create a proper ID, and use that ID
> > every time.  Hell, if they wanted a few bucks a month to manage it, I'd
> pay
> > it in a heartbeat.

> > This one thing kills just about every idea I think of in improving WON
for
> > pickup races.

> > -Larry

> > LTB on TEN, LTB on WON.

> How!