Yeah...that's the ticket....me, Gerhard and uhhhhh.....Morgan Fairchild!
Yeah.
Excuse his poor English *and* the fact that he has absolutely no clue.
Yeah...that's the ticket....me, Gerhard and uhhhhh.....Morgan Fairchild!
Yeah.
Excuse his poor English *and* the fact that he has absolutely no clue.
>Excuse his poor English *and* the fact that he has absolutely no clue.
Me, Gerhard... and Jesus Christ maybe ?
Fran?ois Mnard,
Creator, alt.binaries.simulators.autos (no life geek who is dead)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
With great respect,
May the downforce be with you,
Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
ymenard on NROS, sponsored by
http://www.awpss.com/
SimRacing director, AWPSS
- *Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking) * -
I hearby relinquish my honorary title of "Worthless Font of Mis-
information" to one Fran?ois Mnard, creator of all, including the
peanut butter sandwich, the TV dinner, Tang & Space Food
Sticks, as well as single-handedly determining the Neilsen Rating
for the "Ellen" sit-com 'coming out of the closet' episode.
Marc J. Nelson
Co-creator of my 8-year old son,
With total loss of any direction,
May the peanut butter stick to the roof of your mouth,
Rained out at the Brickyard, ((:))
mnelson on NOS2, sponsored by
http://www.bologna.com/
TurtleRacing director, TTFN
- * Excuse me for my cynical nature (I'm American) * -
Now That's Funny ! Nothing on alt.humor ever made me laugh that hard.
Thanx
Happy Laughing
Wade Tschida
>Marc J. Nelson
>Co-creator of my 8-year old son,
ROTFLMAO!! Great post. I also think ymenard's delusional
posts make this NG more fun to read.
Mike Radler
Im confused... you created RAS AND alt.binaries.simulators.auto as
well??? You are quite the entrepreneur!!
=)
Scott B. Husted
http://home.ptd.net/~sbhusted
> >Yeah...that's the ticket....me, Gerhard and uhhhhh.....Morgan Fairchild!
> >Yeah.
> >Excuse his poor English *and* the fact that he has absolutely no clue.
> LOL that is a funny post. So you really pay attention to what I wrote ? and
> you read ALL my signature file ? So yes a *.sig file has an importance in a
> post on the Usenet ! !
> Me, Gerhard... and Jesus Christ maybe ?
> Fran?ois Mnard,
> Creator, alt.binaries.simulators.autos (no life geek who is dead)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> With great respect,
> May the downforce be with you,
> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
> ymenard on NROS, sponsored by
> http://www.awpss.com/
> SimRacing director, AWPSS
> - *Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking) * -
Let's put an end to that. There is an archive of all newsgroup proposals
that were ever made at ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/
There you can see who proposed a group, and even who voted for it. The
entry for rec.autos.simulators is attached at the end of this message
(slightly trimmed to avoid redundancy).
You don't have to read the whole thing, here's my digest:
- Afzal Ballim from the University of Geneva, Switzerland, posted the
original Request for Discussion. He, if anyone, can therefore be considered
the "creator of RAS".
- There were 170 votes for the creation of RAS, 22 against, and two votes
in error. Nowhere does the name Mnard appear (or Menard, or ymenard.)
(The only name familiar to me is Greg Cisko.)
I conclude therefore that Fran?ois Mnard is *_NOT_* the founder of RAS.
Case closed.
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From af...@divsun.unige.ch Tue Oct 12 15:07:11 1993
From: af...@divsun.unige.ch (Afzal Ballim)
Subject: RFD: rec.autos.simulators
Date: 12 Oct 1993 14:25:40 -0400
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Sender: t...@rodan.UU.NET
Approved: t...@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <rec.autos.simulators-RFD1@uunet.uu.net>
This is a Request For Discussion on the creation of a newsgroup for
computer simulations of automobiles.
Group Name
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rec.autos.simulators
Status
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Unmoderated
Rationale
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There is an increasing amount of software on the market that
provides simulation of automobiles (both in competitive and
non-competitive circumstances). This software is often
multi-platform and so no platform-dependent newsgroup would
provide an appropriate discussion forum for it. In addition,
rec.autos is an inappropriate forum as that group is not intended
for discussion of software.
It is intended that rec.autos.simulators would provide a forum
where
people could discuss such automotive simulation software
irrespective of the platforms on which it runs, and that abstract
technicalities of such software could also be discussed.
Email I have received, plus discussions in various newsgroups
(comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc, rec.autos.sport) and on the F1 Grand
Prix mailing list, has made it clear that such a group would be
welcomed by many usenetters.
Charter
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This newsgroup will be used for discussions of computer simulations of
automotive vehicles, irrespective of the platforms on hich said simulations
are supported. This will include simulations which have a competitive
component (racing simulations) and those which do not. Topics will include
(but are not restricted to):
o Global characteristics of particular simulations.
o Platform-dependent characteristics of such simulations (as a
convention, it is suggested that such discussions list the
platforms in the subject header, e.g.,
Subject: [ibm-pc,sun] Blog's Yugo simulator
o Design and implementation issues of such simulations.
o General discussion of automobile simulations.
Voting
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If all goes according to plan, voting will take place 21 days from
the posting date of this RFD.
This RFD is being posted to the following newsgroups:
news.announce.newsgroups
news.groups
rec.autos
rec.autos.driving
rec.autos.sport
comp.sys.amiga.misc
comp.sys.atari.st
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc
comp.sys.mac.misc
Follow-ups directed to news.groups
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From rdipp...@qualcomm.com Fri Nov 5 22:10:28 1993
From: rdipp...@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Subject: CFV: rec.autos.simulators
Date: 5 Nov 1993 20:17:08 -0500
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.autos.simulators
Newsgroups line:
rec.autos.simulators Discussion of automotive simulators.
Votes must be recieved by 23:59:59 UTC, 27 November 1993.
After the CFV appears in news.announce.newgroups it will be posted by
the proponent to the World Circuit, Formula 1 Grand Prix mailing list
<wcf...@divsun.unige.ch>.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdipp...@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Afzal Ballim <af...@divsun.unige.ch>.
CHARTER
This newsgroup will be used for discussions of realistic computer
simulations of automotive vehicles, irrespective of the platforms on
which said simulations are supported. This will include simulations
which have a competitive component (racing simulations) and those
which do not. Topics will include (but are not restricted to):
o Global characteristics of particular simulations.
o Platform-dependent characteristics of such simulations (as a
convention, it is suggested that such discussions list the
platforms in the subject header, e.g.,
Subject: [ibm-pc,sun] Blog's Yugo simulator
o Design and implementation issues of such simulations.
o Issues of realism in automotive simulation.
o General discussion of automobile simulations.
Obviously, determining whether a particular simulator is "realistic"
requires a judgement call. It is hoped that broad accord between
posters will enable the discernment of valid simulators (for
discussion in this group) from those which are devised for an
entertainment value without concern for realism. Thus, discussion of
many of the arcade racing simulators, which provide an overview
perspective of the vehicle being simulated and which do not attempt to
provide realism of handling of the vehicle, would not be appropriate
in this newsgroup. On the other hand, simulators such as Microprose's
Fomula 1 Grand Prix would fall within the purview of this group as
attempts are made to capture realistic handling of the vehicle.
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From rdipp...@qualcomm.com Tue Nov 30 18:59:01 1993
From: rdipp...@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Subject: RESULT: rec.autos.simulators passes 170:22
Date: 30 Nov 1993 12:57:42 -0500
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Sender: t...@uunet.uu.net
Approved: t...@uunet.uu.net
Mssage-ID: <rec.autos.simulators-RES...@uunet.uu.net>
RESULT
unmoderated rec.autos.simulators group vote results - 192 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
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170 22 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.autos.simulators
2 invalid votes
Newsgroups line:
rec.autos.simulators Discussion of automotive simulators.
Thus the group passes, and should be newgrouped after the five day
waiting period.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdipp...@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Afzal Ballim <af...@divsun.unige.ch>.
rec.autos.simulators group vote Final Vote Ack
Yes Votes f...@uvapsy.psy.uva.nl Frans Oort read more »
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A.H.He...@midge.bath.ac.uk
ae...@freenet.carleton.ca Christian Sauve
af...@divsun.unige.ch Afzal Ballim
ag...@essex.ac.uk Aghanya O A
a...@fml.tuwien.ac.at Andreas Haleger
a...@werple.apana.org.au Glenn Durden
al...@mailhost.cs.pdx.edu Greg Bowers
an95...@ox.ac.uk Martin Sturgess
Athanass...@rus.uni-stuttgart.de Eleutherios Athanassiou
a...@theory.lcs.mit.edu Atul Shrivastava
biome...@engc.bu.edu Melih Ucar
bjen...@watson.ibm.com Brian Jensen
b...@lauto.lmc.com Bob Boulanger
bo...@star.enet.dec.com Mike Boiko
bts...@pfizer.com Bill Tsang
c2x...@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com Michael Kelly Perdue
came...@cs.uct.ac.za
c...@psyc.leeds.ac.uk Driving Simulator
carre...@bcvms.bc.edu Ismael E. Carreras
CASTE...@vm.ci.uv.es Javier Castello
chau...@attmail.com Naren Chauhan
chu...@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU Chua Hak Lien
ci...@d0tokensun.fnal.gov Greg Cisko
cle...@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu Chi Leong
cm5...@ccub.wlv.ac.uk C.Coulson
colf...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU Andrew BW Colfelt
cosc1...@Menudo.UH.EDU cosc19v2
CP...@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU Kevin Parker
cr...@sco.COM Craig Heath
c...@ukc.ac.uk
csro...@eng.clemson.edu Shane Roach
C...@MUSIC.MUS.POLYMTL.CA Nicolas Gauvin
d8...@efd.lth.seKjell Joenhede
d...@metronet.comDale Williams
D...@geog.utoronto.ca Dan Desousa
David_McCul...@mindlink.bc.ca David McCullum
decvax!av8r!tchar...@uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com Thomas Charron
DEG...@dune.sanders.lockheed.com
der...@csrd.uiuc.edu Luiz A. De Rose
desto...@let.ruu.nl Louis des Tombe
dmat...@bronze.lcs.mit.edu Dave Matson
d...@hydra.carleton.CA Dave Perry VE3IFB
dw...@ccmail.GSFC.NASA.GOV Ward, David
edsr!...@uunet.UU.NET John E. Mendenhall
e...@kirkof.psu.edu Everett H Paddock
emart...@uiuc.edu Eduardo Martins
e...@mala.bc.ca Lorne Epp
eric.wyck...@eta.pha.jhu.edu Eric Wyckoff
esp...@netcom.comAlan F. Perry
ev...@dehavilland.ca Ed Vale
field...@iosg.enet.dec.com A person of reduced
seriousness... 08-Nov-1993
fon...@CC.UManitoba.CA
frank...@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDUGregory C Franklin
fuer...@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
ge...@softy.softwords.bc.c Geoff Seeley
geo...@engin.umich.edu
gt44...@prism.gatech.edu
gt60...@prism.gatech.edu Michael James Dixon
gwis...@afit.af.mil Gordon Wishon
ham...@psyc.leeds.ac.uk Hamish Jamson
he...@vipunen.hut.fi Henrikki T H{kk{nen
herb...@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at
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Haha..; ) Marc are you sure about that?? hehe; )
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<taking a voice of a normal r.a.s.mer who is replying to me>
No your are not. You dont have any proof you self ego-centric crazy-boy new
born hitler with no sence of respect and big hypocrit guy. Who are you ?
You're not the leader, meister, lord, top simracer, etc. of your child,
either. Quit going on your stupid little ego trips, ok pal?
</taking a voice of a normal r.a.s.mer who is replying to me>
Well I think that I live too close of the magnetic north so sometimes I dont
know where is the north. Wait !.... The sun goes up in the East...
Naw remember I am the creator of the non-sticky peanut butter !
It's reported to Monday (and Tuesday if you racing in IRL)
Heck thats cool. Do you have free meat with them?
ok... (dont understand it) sorry :(
Heh lol good one. Actually its the funnies post since many times here.
Funny. ROTF. and I hope you enjoyed also my joking reply also :-)
Fran?ois Mnard,
With great respect,
May the downforce be with you,
Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
ymenard on NROS, sponsored by
http://www.awpss.com/
SimRacing director, AWPSS
- *Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking) * -
>ROTFLMAO!! Great post. I also think ymenard's delusional
>posts make this NG more fun to read.
Fran?ois Mnard,
With great respect,
May the downforce be with you,
Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
ymenard on NROS, sponsored by
http://www.awpss.com/
SimRacing director, AWPSS
- *Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking) * -
>>ROTFLMAO!! Great post. I also think ymenard's delusional
>>posts make this NG more fun to read.
>Thanks Mike. I also very enjoy the cynical of my posts (ALL of them). If
>you take this thread (a.k. Return of the Ymenard) with a smile and dont take
>it serioulsy, well congratulations. Youre the winner and you dont fall into
>my bag. Point taken, I decided to change my sig file to make it with the
>"REAL" me.
ymenard, no, I don't take your statements seriously. As for you
personally, I'd be scared to leave my kids anywhere near your
extremely wierd self.
Mike Radler
Afzal Ballim
Creator of rec.autos.simulators
With great respect,
May the downforce be with you,
Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
ymenard on NROS, sponsored by
http://www.awpss.com/
SimRacing director, AWPSS
- *Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking) * -
- *Excuse me for my provocative reply's and posts <g> * -
I promised myself...<sigh>
OK, here's the deal -- I'm only gonna post this once because this kid
gives me the genuine creeps...
I know some people in here get a kick out of Menard's online gibbering,
but if you don't, the ONLY way to get rid of him is to ignore him
completely. Your responses to him are the ONLY stimulus he's looking for
-- negative, positive, angry, amused -- it doesn't matter: all he wants
is attention. As long as he gets THAT, he'll keep piling the ***in
here until it consumes 90% of the bandwidth.
A special note to Menard: remember what I told you the last time. If I
so much as see an empty message form from you in my private email, I
WILL contact your ISP, and I WILL get your account canceled.
Bart Brown
Oh well this is reaaaaly immature. Cancelling an acount because you dont
like what I write in the newsgroup. Here is a more intelligent and better
way (for you and me <g>).
DON'T READ MY DARN MESSAGES.
I quote another time the pre-message to the Howard Stern show "This program
contains offensive and provocative opinions. If you are offended, please
change the channel."
Fran?ois Mnard,
With great respect,
May the downforce be with you,
Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
ymenard on NROS, sponsored by
http://www.awpss.com/
SimRacing director, AWPSS
- *Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking) * -
- *Excuse me for my provocative reply's and posts <g> * -