> I hate you, hate you, hate you!!!!!!!!!! ;-)
Jan. :-/
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Dan
> I hate you, hate you, hate you!!!!!!!!!! ;-)
> > Thanks for the setup tips Haqsau, I'll give them a try today.
> > The only cars I seem to like are the Eagle and Lotus. I was pretty even
> with
> > both of them, but then when I wanted to go a little faster I'd take the
> > Eagle out and warm up with it, after I turned a couple of fast laps I'd
> > switch to the Lotus and seem to be able to do a little better with it.
> But
> > for the past week I've only been using the Lotus.
> > > In addition to what others have said, it also depends on the vehicle.
> The
> > > defaults for the Lotus, Eagle, and Ferrari are pretty good, but the
> > defaults
> > > for the others vary from inadequate to horrible. The Honda and
Brabham
> in
> > > particular can be made a whole lot easier to drive if you set them up
> > > properly.
> > > Also there are simple tricks that you can do with the defaults that
can
> > take
> > > as much as a second or two off of your lap times. Try some of these
> > things:
> > > 1) Take out fuel to the minimum that you need. You need about 3 laps
> > worth
> > > for qualifying. Even short races require significantly less than the
> > > default amount of fuel, allowing you to save hundreds of pounds.
> > > 2) Most of the default setups have the bump ***s way too high,
> causing
> > > you to hit them during normal handling maneuvers. Bump ***s should
> > only
> > > be hit when going over bumps or landing from a jump, never during
> > cornering
> > > or braking. You need to have the bump ***s be about 2 inches
shorter
> > > than the ride height, more for the heavier cars or when carrying a lot
> of
> > > fuel. You can lower the bump ***s to 0.5 inches using GPL Race
> > Engineer
> > > from Alison Hine's site, otherwise you will have to raise the ride
> height
> > to
> > > get the necessary clearance.
> > > 3) The tires in GPL seem to give the best grip when the temperature
> > profile
> > > across the tread surface is absolutely flat, even if this means they
are
> > at
> > > a less than ideal temperature. So adjust the tire pressure and camber
> to
> > > give you flat temperature profiles. In most cases this will mean
> setting
> > > the tire pressure to about 20 psi cold and setting the camber
> > > assymetrically.
> > > 4) The brake bias is arbitrarily set a bit high, probably to reduce
> > spinning
> > > for people who aren't used to the brakes. You can usually knock it
back
> > one
> > > of two clicks without difficulty, more if you are a very smooth
braker.
> > > This will allow you to reduce your braking distance a bit and to brake
> > > deeper into the corner entry. Small difference in lap times, but not
> hard
> > > to do with practice.
> > > With a Lotus or an Eagle and those four tweaks to the defaults, I can
> run
> > in
> > > the low 1:29's at Monza, less than half a second slower than my best.
> > With
> > > the defaults unchanged except for fuel, the best I can do is about
> 1:30.5.
> > > Hope that helps.
> > > > Being a GPL newbie, I was wondering how competitive the default
setups
> > > are?
> > > > I have see the GPL rank you guys use and was wondering if the
default
> > > setups
> > > > will get an average person to the laptime goals at each track.
> > > > My best at Monza with the default setup is 132.04, so I downloaded
L.
> > > > Grandis lap of 126.23 and thought there's no way I'm going to be
able
> to
> > > do
> > > > that with the default setup. So I was wondering what setups most
> people
> > > are
> > > > using to get to the goal laptimes.
> > > > Dan
Jason
It seems to wanna kick out the rear in every curve (handy in Monaco's
hairpins though), feels indeed like a small F2 chassis with a heavy big
sideways-swinging engine in the rear. After that, the Lotus (and Eagle)
suddenly seemed a lot easier to handle... )
(Also i was surprised the Brabham seemed to have a rev limiter compared
to the Eagle, it just wouldn't really rev up high, the powerband seemed
narrow when it's the Braby's that's supposed to be broad.)
I couldn't get the Cooper anywhere near my Ferrari times, let alone the
Lotus or Eagle's... Tried like heck to do this on Kyalami once, and I
remember it was such hard work to go only two seconds slower, not more.
Upping my PB was a lot easier, but I can't say I learned a lot going
slow in the Cooper... only how hard the guys in less-stellar cars had to
work back then ;)
Dunno, maybe it's just too underpowered for me - had to take crazy risks
in every single corner to even keep the faster cars in view.
Regards, Ruud (mostly Eagle nowadays)
I'm 3 seconds off at the Glen with a 110.040, so I guess I'll just keep
practicing and hope to get faster. Thanks for all the tips.
The dip/hill at Rouen is kicking my ***though, I spin it every time.
Dan
> > To be perfectly honest, I've been running the papy Nascar sims from the
> > begining, I'm just new to GPL :). So I do have some experience with
race
> > sims, but roadies have never been my strong suit. Although I do find
this
> > sim to be very fun, and for the first time, I find I'm able to stay on
the
> > track at a road course. I think the biggest thing helping me is I
haven't
> > found any chicanes like most tracks have now, those damn chicanes kick
my
> > ***:).
> > Dan
Gotta get that one right... used to think otherwise, but there's a lot to be
gained there (in the order of 0.5s). Brake-coast-brake through the downhill
lefthander (shrub on the right is slightly too late as a brake marker if you
came off six freres well) and make sure you enter the hairpin from the
leftmost edge of the road, running a slightly wide constant radius line
rather than a late apex one. That should do it. YMMV
Jan.
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Which part is that? Just after the s/f line? If you're spinning there,
then you're letting off the gas too much. At least apply some throttle
after you've got your braking done.
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Better than Jan's understeering ***es :-)
MS
Yep. At UK pump prices, you save more than that even <G>
MS
>> You consider Nunnini's setups to be "friendly"?!? Blech...
>Better than Jan's understeering ***es :-)
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