rec.autos.simulators

I'm having a bit of drama with the setup at Milwaukee.
The car I'm using is the Lola with a Ford Cosworth engine and Firestone
tyres.
I'm only at 100% opponent strength and I'm having trouble keeping up with
Hiro!!

Here's what I'm running.  Don't laugh!!

Tyres-
RF Hard 35 Cold,  RR Medium 34 Cold,  LF Soft 39 Cold, LR Soft 37 Cold

Stagger- +1.000"

Wings-
18.00 front, 18.00 rear.  (I don't know whether this is correct, I found
that if I take wing off it becomes totally undriveable!!!)

Cambers-
RF -1.90, RR -1.30, LR -0.10, LF -0.60

Shocks-  (I'm fairly sure I've got this wrong)
RF 10%, RR 5%, LR 95%, LF 90%

Wheel Lock- 15 degrees

6th gear- 5.7:1

I found it better to drive with both the front and rear bars totally loose,
perhaps with a small amount of front bar.  The more rear bar I run, the
looser the car gets on the entry to the turns.

I can run consistent 165-169mph laps with about 25 gallons of fuel.  I'm
sure this is not even close to what I should be running.  The best I get
out of it is about 172mph!!

Any assistance to point me in the right direction would be appreciated.  I
can get the car to turn in well but I get a fairly severe mid corner push.
I know the manual says with an ideal setup Milwaukee should be flat out but
I have to modulate the throttle through the turns.

Thanks
Don.

the setup has to be loose and it has to be perfect.  At MIL if you have
a perfect setup you will "powerslide" comming out of the turns, as if
the back wheels are gliding on the pavement rather than griping it.  I
don't believe you can make it around full out, no matter what the
instructions say.
        MIL is my fave course because a good setup makes it like a dirt track
or a rally car, the tail slides out and you can get back on the gas much
sooner because of this.

Well, I'm running a Lola/Cosworth/Goodyear setup at 189.5mph in qualifying
and have run a best of 19.7s (sorry no mph) in race trim.

I can asure you that, while possible, I do not go flat out.  If I go flat
out then I push into the wall in 2 and 4 (close to the exit, but still
into it).

The fast way is not loose, but nuetral.  If you get too loose, then you
lose speed down the straight.  And yes, nuetral feels like power sliding,
although slightly, at least in turn 4.

Ok, then give me the setup, but modify it to these controls:

Tab-accelerate
Left arrow-left turn
Right arrow-right turn
S-brake
(I use autoshifting)

Christopher
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Ron Hornaday "Aww..."(slamms on brakes)

: I can run consistent 165-169mph laps with about 25 gallons of fuel.  I'm
: sure this is not even close to what I should be running.  The best I get
: out of it is about 172mph!!

I took your car out for a spin.  I started with 23 gals, but I used my
gearing (which means I only got to 5th; 5.6:1).  This car is an
oversteering pig.

I did manage to get some consistent 172's with high fuel, then ran some
176's on 12 gals and less with a best of 177.6mph (10gals left), but only
after adding some front bar (about 5 clicks up from rear).

: Any assistance to point me in the right direction would be appreciated.  I
: can get the car to turn in well but I get a fairly severe mid corner push.
: I know the manual says with an ideal setup Milwaukee should be flat out but
: I have to modulate the throttle through the turns.

Do not drive here flat out.  I found your car to have oversteer, not
understeer.

BTW, Congradulations to him for winning at Ausie! What a feeling to have
your honeymoon AND
win the former season opener all at the same time! You know that car he
was driving wasnt
even designed for him?

=8>]

-DG-

All I know is that Millwaukee was a flatout track in ICR1.

Christopher
http://members.aol.com/ROSCS
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Dale Earnhardt: "Hey Ron...It's Earnhardt...your wife called...said sumpn' 'bout an anneversary..."

Ron Hornaday "Aww..."(slamms on brakes)

: All I know is that Millwaukee was a flatout track in ICR1.

A couple of things changed this in ICR2.  #1 was the rule changes in
CART reducing down force on the cars.  #2 was that Papyrus did alot of
work on fine tuning the physics of the sim, including more realistic
tracks and car handling physics.

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: A couple of things changed this in ICR2.  #1 was the rule changes in
: CART reducing down force on the cars.  #2 was that Papyrus did alot of
: work on fine tuning the physics of the sim, including more realistic
: tracks and car handling physics.

While that's true, IndyCars did NOT go around The Mile flat out in 1995.
The track still had the old pavement on it in '95 and the track record was
only 165mph set by Raul Boesel.

Since we are doing over 189mph in ICR2 the physics for Milwaukee are not
even close.  Not even after the repavement.  They still lift.