rec.autos.simulators

>> The problem with the IVGa that I have heard is that one of the guys was
>> sending e-mail out to guys with real fast setups like Donny_Lia and saying
>> that they are from Papyrus wanting their setups to do testing on how to
>> stop cheating. In which the guy was tring to steal peoplese setups and he
>> was also signing his letters with someone elses name and Hawaii name
>> (smokkinu's).In which Smokkinu has no reason to do that because from my
>> experiance he is the fastest and best driver on Hawaii.It got SMokkin
>> suspended until Ed Martin found out who it really was and apologized to
>> Smokkin and let him back on.Ed is a stand up guy and does a greta job.I
>> will not say who the person doing that was but he is buddy buddy with Don
>> Wilshe.I am not saying Don had any part in this,as I have no idea or reason
>> to think this because Don is a decent guy on hawaii atleast.But he did go
>> around saying that it was smokkinu doing it when it was one of his
>> buddys.Now when you have to say you work for papyrus and say your someone
>> else to steal someones setups that is down right low.It that probably hurt
>> the IVGA in the eyes of Papyrus.Just my opion inwhich doesn't mean much.

>> Robert

>> > Just wanted to point out something that I think is VERY important here.
>> > The IVGA software was developed to stop cheeting.  I honestly don't know
>> > if they succeeded in preventing ALL cheeting, but it's better than
>> > none.  I think the game should do this by itself.  And, if Papyrus
>> > hasn't included this into NASCAR2, then they should be talking with IVGA
>> > to figure it out.  Some people look at the IVGA the wrong way here.
>> > Theyv'e only tried to improve a simulation that we all love.  And, I
>> > think theyv'e done that.
>> >   As for banning Don Wilshe from NRL...I think it's rediculas to
>> > disqualify some one because they have more setups then someone else.
>> > Tha majority of the fastest setups are available.  I know from
>> > experience that you cant take someone elses setup and run the same
>> > speeds.  To many other factors are involved.  At best it might save you
>> > some time if your way off with the setup.  I've given my setups to any
>> > that asked, but they would have to drive MY style for it to work.  Few
>> > drivers drive alike.
>> >   I also disagree that any Beta testers have any advantage over the rest
>> > of us also.  Sure they have some more experience, but again...thats only
>> > one small part of the puzzle.
>> >   I'm anxiosly awaiting NASCAR2...and NRL if it's affordable.  But, I
>> > think some feelings have been hurt here on both sides of the IVGA/NRL
>> > discssion, and words have been said in anger.  I think we all need to
>> > take a breath, step back, and reconsider what this entire thing is
>> > for....A lot of enjoyment.  I can't predict the future, but those that
>> > say no $$$ will be involved I think you need to take the blinders off.
>> > It won't happen from the beggining, but it's only a matter of time
>> > before a LOT of mony is involved.  Just consider ALL the possibilities
>> > here!!!
>> >   I didn't write this to offend any one on any side if the discussion.
>> > I'm sure thier are LOTS of different opinions.  But, I think were all
>> > working for the same goal here...To have a VERY fun simulator that we
>> > can all feel proad to be a part of.  And part of that fun comes from
>> > competing fairly and honestly.  And knowing that others are doing the
>> > same.

>> > Lyman VanDerWege
>> > Director: Tidewater NASCAR Modem Series
>> > http://www.infi.net/~lymanv/tnms/tnms.htm