rec.autos.simulators

by **L_NiN** » Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Say it with me....

LONG LIVE WAREZ! TO HELL WITH PUBLISHERS.....

If you can find a game online - DOWNLOAD IT - play it and unless are truly
truly satisfied (aka GPL) don't spend money on it.

OH, no Bluto...don't download that warez software - someone might get hurt.
Well, GOOD!...because a few publisher need to be put on the hit list for
releasing poor titles with a lot of hype and no demo hoping to rake in on
the drones that shop by the pretty pictures on the box alone. Oh, or maybe
they go by the game mag review on page 32...followed by a full page AD on
page 35.

I personally do not download warez anymore because it takes too damn long
(analog line) - however, I do not buy just released titles either (burned
way too much). A game will have to pass the test of time from the online
community before I purchase it. This is often a bonus because the price has
come down....my machine will more likely run it smoother and I WILL KNOW it
is a good game by the way the online community still talks about it.

Well, I for one am sick and tired of the game publishers pushing us
around...then they have the NERVE to complain about all the money they are
loosing to piracy? Well, first off - tell me how you accurately calculate
how much money was lost to pirated software? IF they know who is buying it
and how much they are spending on it then why don't they stop them? OR are
they counting everyone the downloads a title like F1-2000? I don't see that
as being accurate either because many people will download something just
because it is there and they can - when in fact, if not given a piracy
option, those same people would have easily done without a title and not
even thought about paying for it.

I for one would like to see these big names REALLY take a hit (where it
counts - the WALLET) be it from WAREZ or just plain common sense shopping
(which in all likelihood will never happen because of the millions of pretty
picture drones). LET THE ***ERS GO UNDER -- SELL THE FARM -- BITE THE BIG
ONE.

OH, but who will make our great SIMS then....Well, how many of you cried for
MICROSOFT? Most of you were glad to see them taken down a "psuedo" notch
because that would open the playing field for the smaller and more inventive
guys....

But what if they just take their money and put it into some other genre?
GOOD LET THEM because they are just wasting their time and our money anyway.

-F1 2000 is EASports hyped bullshit built for EVERYMAN...COME ON - EA does
not make a titles for the niches of the world.

-PAPYRUS - what have you done for me lately? sold me two awful rehashed
version of N2 with better graphics? Then sell an add on pack but only
include it in a boxed set of all three for the same price I paid for one of
them? OH, but they gave us GPL...SO ***ING WHAT - They forgot what got them
to the point they are at and need to be reminded.

GP3....a glimmer of hope shines in the far off distance...the return of a
legend...or just another reunion tour to CASH IN?

by **Andrew** » Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:00:00

With rationalizations like this, I am really glad I have locks on my doors.

by **Ken Bear** » Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:00:00

And this folks is what was brought in with all the warez hype....thanks.

When all the publishers have moved on to PSX2 and X-Box - due to having disk
formats that are hard / impossible to make copies of on burners, and with no
possibility of downloading games for them, we'll have no one to blame but
the folks with this attitude - and ourselves.

--
Ken's Sig 3.01

"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" -
Obi-Wan Kenobi

Go #43 and #44!

volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com

by **L_NiN** » Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:00:00

You are the same people who probably think Hollywood has not corrupted and
trivialized out motion picture industry....HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU PAY TO SEE
TITANIC?

LONG LIVE INDEPENDENT FILM
maybe they don't have all the big money of Hollywood but they make much
better products targeted at small segments of the population rather than the
mainstream sell-out lowest-common-denominator ***you like...oh, but I
guess you just care about special fx and not any rational plot line or
story...much like all of the games you will be able to buy very soon - BIG
BUDGET PILES OF SHIT WITH PRETTY PICTURES.

So, why couldn't Papy survive? I think they would do better without the rule
of iron-fisted bottom-line-minded big-brother Sierra...

by **L_NiN** » Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:00:00

This coming from someone who quotes Obi-Wan Kenobi -

> And this folks is what was brought in with all the warez hype....thanks.

> When all the publishers have moved on to PSX2 and X-Box - due to having
disk
> formats that are hard / impossible to make copies of on burners, and with
no
> possibility of downloading games for them, we'll have no one to blame but
> the folks with this attitude - and ourselves.

> --
> Ken's Sig 3.01

> "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" -
> Obi-Wan Kenobi

> Go #43 and #44!

> volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com

> > Say it with me....

> > LONG LIVE WAREZ! TO HELL WITH PUBLISHERS.....

> > If you can find a game online - DOWNLOAD IT - play it and unless are
truly
> > truly satisfied (aka GPL) don't spend money on it.

> > OH, no Bluto...don't download that warez software - someone might get
> hurt.
> > Well, GOOD!...because a few publisher need to be put on the hit list for
> > releasing poor titles with a lot of hype and no demo hoping to rake in
on
> > the drones that shop by the pretty pictures on the box alone. Oh, or
maybe
> > they go by the game mag review on page 32...followed by a full page AD
on
> > page 35.

> > I personally do not download warez anymore because it takes too damn
long
> > (analog line) - however, I do not buy just released titles either
(burned
> > way too much). A game will have to pass the test of time from the online
> > community before I purchase it. This is often a bonus because the price
> has
> > come down....my machine will more likely run it smoother and I WILL KNOW
> it
> > is a good game by the way the online community still talks about it.

> > Well, I for one am sick and tired of the game publishers pushing us
> > around...then they have the NERVE to complain about all the money they
are
> > loosing to piracy? Well, first off - tell me how you accurately
calculate
> > how much money was lost to pirated software? IF they know who is buying
it
> > and how much they are spending on it then why don't they stop them? OR
are
> > they counting everyone the downloads a title like F1-2000? I don't see
> that
> > as being accurate either because many people will download something
just
> > because it is there and they can - when in fact, if not given a piracy
> > option, those same people would have easily done without a title and not
> > even thought about paying for it.

> > I for one would like to see these big names REALLY take a hit (where it
> > counts - the WALLET) be it from WAREZ or just plain common sense
shopping
> > (which in all likelihood will never happen because of the millions of
> pretty
> > picture drones). LET THE ***ERS GO UNDER -- SELL THE FARM -- BITE THE
BIG
> > ONE.

> > OH, but who will make our great SIMS then....Well, how many of you cried
> for
> > MICROSOFT? Most of you were glad to see them taken down a "psuedo" notch
> > because that would open the playing field for the smaller and more
> inventive
> > guys....

> > But what if they just take their money and put it into some other genre?
> > GOOD LET THEM because they are just wasting their time and our money
> anyway.

> > -F1 2000 is EASports hyped bullshit built for EVERYMAN...COME ON - EA
does
> > not make a titles for the niches of the world.

> > -PAPYRUS - what have you done for me lately? sold me two awful rehashed
> > version of N2 with better graphics? Then sell an add on pack but only
> > include it in a boxed set of all three for the same price I paid for one
> of
> > them? OH, but they gave us GPL...SO ***ING WHAT - They forgot what got
> them
> > to the point they are at and need to be reminded.

> > GP3....a glimmer of hope shines in the far off distance...the return of
a
> > legend...or just another reunion tour to CASH IN?

by **Ken Bear** » Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:00:00

And if you thought that quote was foolish - why did you post a followup?

Think about it....it's what the post is about, NOT Star Wars....

--
Ken's Sig 3.01

"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" -
Obi-Wan Kenobi

Go #43 and #44!

volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com

> This coming from someone who quotes Obi-Wan Kenobi -

> > And this folks is what was brought in with all the warez hype....thanks.

> > When all the publishers have moved on to PSX2 and X-Box - due to having
> disk
> > formats that are hard / impossible to make copies of on burners, and
with
> no
> > possibility of downloading games for them, we'll have no one to blame
but
> > the folks with this attitude - and ourselves.

> > --
> > Ken's Sig 3.01

> > "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" -
> > Obi-Wan Kenobi

> > Go #43 and #44!

> > volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com

> > > Say it with me....

> > > LONG LIVE WAREZ! TO HELL WITH PUBLISHERS.....

> > > If you can find a game online - DOWNLOAD IT - play it and unless are
> truly
> > > truly satisfied (aka GPL) don't spend money on it.

> > > OH, no Bluto...don't download that warez software - someone might get
> > hurt.
> > > Well, GOOD!...because a few publisher need to be put on the hit list
for
> > > releasing poor titles with a lot of hype and no demo hoping to rake in
> on
> > > the drones that shop by the pretty pictures on the box alone. Oh, or
> maybe
> > > they go by the game mag review on page 32...followed by a full page AD
> on
> > > page 35.

> > > I personally do not download warez anymore because it takes too damn
> long
> > > (analog line) - however, I do not buy just released titles either
> (burned
> > > way too much). A game will have to pass the test of time from the
online
> > > community before I purchase it. This is often a bonus because the
price
> > has
> > > come down....my machine will more likely run it smoother and I WILL
KNOW
> > it
> > > is a good game by the way the online community still talks about it.

> > > Well, I for one am sick and tired of the game publishers pushing us
> > > around...then they have the NERVE to complain about all the money they
> are
> > > loosing to piracy? Well, first off - tell me how you accurately
> calculate
> > > how much money was lost to pirated software? IF they know who is
buying
> it
> > > and how much they are spending on it then why don't they stop them? OR
> are
> > > they counting everyone the downloads a title like F1-2000? I don't see
> > that
> > > as being accurate either because many people will download something
> just
> > > because it is there and they can - when in fact, if not given a piracy
> > > option, those same people would have easily done without a title and
not
> > > even thought about paying for it.

> > > I for one would like to see these big names REALLY take a hit (where
it
> > > counts - the WALLET) be it from WAREZ or just plain common sense
> shopping
> > > (which in all likelihood will never happen because of the millions of
> > pretty
> > > picture drones). LET THE ***ERS GO UNDER -- SELL THE FARM -- BITE THE
> BIG
> > > ONE.

> > > OH, but who will make our great SIMS then....Well, how many of you
cried
> > for
> > > MICROSOFT? Most of you were glad to see them taken down a "psuedo"
notch
> > > because that would open the playing field for the smaller and more
> > inventive
> > > guys....

> > > But what if they just take their money and put it into some other
genre?
> > > GOOD LET THEM because they are just wasting their time and our money
> > anyway.

> > > -F1 2000 is EASports hyped bullshit built for EVERYMAN...COME ON - EA
> does
> > > not make a titles for the niches of the world.

> > > -PAPYRUS - what have you done for me lately? sold me two awful
rehashed
> > > version of N2 with better graphics? Then sell an add on pack but only
> > > include it in a boxed set of all three for the same price I paid for
one
> > of
> > > them? OH, but they gave us GPL...SO ***ING WHAT - They forgot what
got
> > them
> > > to the point they are at and need to be reminded.

> > > GP3....a glimmer of hope shines in the far off distance...the return
of
> a
> > > legend...or just another reunion tour to CASH IN?

by **L_NiN** » Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:00:00

You mean a 20 year old film like Star Wars? or are you talking about the
most recent pile of ***Lucas spit out ... hmmmm, loved all those computer
effects...just seems he got too caught up in them and forgot to build any
characters or plot...zzzz.

Like playing a bad racing game with pretty pictures, lots of smoke, bad
physics and unintelligent AI.

> > LONG LIVE INDEPENDENT FILM

> You mean... independant film like.. Star Wars?

> Hehe.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
realise
> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Tony Rickar** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

"L_NiN0" 'wrote' in message
Yeh great idea - publishers see profits drop - rationalise their product
range - no more niche products.

Now on the other hand if the publishers flourish and millions more buy boxes
with pretty pictures then maybe they can withstand the luxury of letting
developers produce some flagship products which make relatively little money
but offer some prestige.

What future for Papyrus if Sierra feel the squeeze?

Tony

by **ymenar** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Just so your simple-mind don't spread more idioties and false information,
Papyrus will ship their Nascar Craftmans Truck Series as a stand-alone
expansion pack for Nascar Racing 3.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **ymenar** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

You mean... independant film like.. Star Wars?

Hehe.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **The Enigmatic O** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Watch it again. Really.

I'm itching to do a major Literary Criticism piece on Episode 1, but
then I have lots of experience in Medieval Lit and, in particular, epics.

-Tim

by **ymenar** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

It's an independant movie, out of the Hollywood structure completely.

Even if I could argue with this for days, remember that it's an independant
movie, also out of the Hollywood structure.

You are near an official ymenard plonk.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **ymenar** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Good! Finally somebody with sense, who can appreciate Episode 1 on the
second and third level. You can catch me on r.a.s.s.m sometimes, there is
some great stuff there. There was a good debate about the Force as a
religion vs. scientology, and how things like Midi-Chlorians are essential
to the saga. Or how Jar-Jar has roots from Shakespeare. There is flaws, I
mean it's Star Wars not Citizen Kane, but overall it's lived up the hype for
me and I'm one very big *** fan.

This shouldn't be here, but anybody who dares to attack Star Wars is to be
ignored as a "rebel scum". Ha ;)

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Han** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

now now children.

>And if you thought that quote was foolish - why did you post a followup?

>Think about it....it's what the post is about, NOT Star Wars....

>--
>Ken's Sig 3.01

>"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" -
>Obi-Wan Kenobi

>Go #43 and #44!

>volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com

>> This coming from someone who quotes Obi-Wan Kenobi -

>> > And this folks is what was brought in with all the warez
hype....thanks.

>> > When all the publishers have moved on to PSX2 and X-Box - due to having
>> disk
>> > formats that are hard / impossible to make copies of on burners, and
>with
>> no
>> > possibility of downloading games for them, we'll have no one to blame
>but
>> > the folks with this attitude - and ourselves.

>> > --
>> > Ken's Sig 3.01

>> > "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" -
>> > Obi-Wan Kenobi

>> > Go #43 and #44!

>> > volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com

>> > > Say it with me....

>> > > LONG LIVE WAREZ! TO HELL WITH PUBLISHERS.....

>> > > If you can find a game online - DOWNLOAD IT - play it and unless are
>> truly
>> > > truly satisfied (aka GPL) don't spend money on it.

>> > > OH, no Bluto...don't download that warez software - someone might get
>> > hurt.
>> > > Well, GOOD!...because a few publisher need to be put on the hit list
>for
>> > > releasing poor titles with a lot of hype and no demo hoping to rake
in
>> on
>> > > the drones that shop by the pretty pictures on the box alone. Oh, or
>> maybe
>> > > they go by the game mag review on page 32...followed by a full page
AD
>> on
>> > > page 35.

>> > > I personally do not download warez anymore because it takes too damn
>> long
>> > > (analog line) - however, I do not buy just released titles either
>> (burned
>> > > way too much). A game will have to pass the test of time from the
>online
>> > > community before I purchase it. This is often a bonus because the
>price
>> > has
>> > > come down....my machine will more likely run it smoother and I WILL
>KNOW
>> > it
>> > > is a good game by the way the online community still talks about it.

>> > > Well, I for one am sick and tired of the game publishers pushing us
>> > > around...then they have the NERVE to complain about all the money
they
>> are
>> > > loosing to piracy? Well, first off - tell me how you accurately
>> calculate
>> > > how much money was lost to pirated software? IF they know who is
>buying
>> it
>> > > and how much they are spending on it then why don't they stop them?
OR
>> are
>> > > they counting everyone the downloads a title like F1-2000? I don't
see
>> > that
>> > > as being accurate either because many people will download something
>> just
>> > > because it is there and they can - when in fact, if not given a
piracy
>> > > option, those same people would have easily done without a title and
>not
>> > > even thought about paying for it.

>> > > I for one would like to see these big names REALLY take a hit (where
>it
>> > > counts - the WALLET) be it from WAREZ or just plain common sense
>> shopping
>> > > (which in all likelihood will never happen because of the millions of
>> > pretty
>> > > picture drones). LET THE ***ERS GO UNDER -- SELL THE FARM -- BITE
THE
>> BIG
>> > > ONE.

>> > > OH, but who will make our great SIMS then....Well, how many of you
>cried
>> > for
>> > > MICROSOFT? Most of you were glad to see them taken down a "psuedo"
>notch
>> > > because that would open the playing field for the smaller and more
>> > inventive
>> > > guys....

>> > > But what if they just take their money and put it into some other
>genre?
>> > > GOOD LET THEM because they are just wasting their time and our money
>> > anyway.

>> > > -F1 2000 is EASports hyped bullshit built for EVERYMAN...COME ON - EA
>> does
>> > > not make a titles for the niches of the world.

>> > > -PAPYRUS - what have you done for me lately? sold me two awful
>rehashed
>> > > version of N2 with better graphics? Then sell an add on pack but only
>> > > include it in a boxed set of all three for the same price I paid for
>one
>> > of
>> > > them? OH, but they gave us GPL...SO ***ING WHAT - They forgot what
>got
>> > them
>> > > to the point they are at and need to be reminded.

>> > > GP3....a glimmer of hope shines in the far off distance...the return
>of
>> a
>> > > legend...or just another reunion tour to CASH IN?

by **Cliff Roma** » Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:00:00

While I realize that Episode 1 did not do nearly as good as Star Wars, I
think too many people are looking at it from a one movie point of view.
Alot of people who thought the movie sucked are not looking at it in a
trilogy point of view, which is where it is designed. It was not made to be
a one movie smash like Star Wars, it was made to fit into a story line that
will lead into Episode 2 and 3. Episode 2 will not be a huge smash either,
but Episode 3, now that is the movie I am looking forward to.

I love Episode 1, you just have to appreciate it for what it was meant to
be, and that is a leadin to the next two movies.

> > I'm itching to do a major Literary Criticism piece on Episode 1, but
> > then I have lots of experience in Medieval Lit and, in particular,
epics.

> Good! Finally somebody with sense, who can appreciate Episode 1 on the
> second and third level. You can catch me on r.a.s.s.m sometimes, there
is
> some great stuff there. There was a good debate about the Force as a
> religion vs. scientology, and how things like Midi-Chlorians are essential
> to the saga. Or how Jar-Jar has roots from Shakespeare. There is flaws,
I
> mean it's Star Wars not Citizen Kane, but overall it's lived up the hype
for
> me and I'm one very big *** fan.

> This shouldn't be here, but anybody who dares to attack Star Wars is to be
> ignored as a "rebel scum". Ha ;)

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
realise
> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

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