rec.autos.simulators

by **J.D. Elli** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 02:08:41

> Oh, God. PLEASE don't tell me this thing has that draconian disaster known
> as Product Activation in it?

Larry:

It's not nearly as bad as all the blathering on the RSC forum would lead
you to believe.

I had no trouble with it. Took a matter of seconds, and worked the
first time.

I guess from the developer's end, it's a combination of CYA against
piracy, a way to boot wreckers, and means of tracking race data for the
LFS World portion of their site.

Certainly not a deal breaker, IMHO.

-jde

by **Steve Blankenshi** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 03:26:11

> > Oh, God. PLEASE don't tell me this thing has that draconian disaster
known
> > as Product Activation in it?

> Larry:

> It's not nearly as bad as all the blathering on the RSC forum would lead
> you to believe.

> I had no trouble with it. Took a matter of seconds, and worked the
> first time.

> I guess from the developer's end, it's a combination of CYA against
> piracy, a way to boot wreckers, and means of tracking race data for the
> LFS World portion of their site.

> Certainly not a deal breaker, IMHO.

No kidding; what a load of hysteria in the forums. The unlocking bit worked
fine here, too; no problem at all. Plus, since the key isn't written to the
registry, a simple backup of your LFS directory once it's unlocked
eliminates any hardware/reformat issues.

For the very reasonable fee they're asking, I was all too happy to support
another sim with solid multiplayer - I should think most everyone in this NG
would do likewise.

Looking forward to seeing where they're able to go with LFS...

SB

by **B.Farme** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 03:34:32

> Oh, God. PLEASE don't tell me this thing has that draconian disaster
> known as Product Activation in it?

> If it does, S1 is the LAST level I'll buy.

> Dammit, I sure hope they didn't destroy what was a perfect thing so
> far.

> -Larry

<snip>

Larry, fwiw, I just dl'd & reg'd w/o a problem. It only *requires* user name
& e-mail addy, & was reatively painless.

So far, so good. ;o)

-Brian

by **sting3** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 03:36:21

So you download it, then you have to burn it? or that just you?

Im off to read again, but I didnt see I had to burn it... then install it.

> >> Good News: It's Out...

> >> Bad News: No Mirrors, As Yet...

> >> www.liveforspeed.net

> >5 mirrors up :-)

> Yep, that must have been around the time I downloaded it...
> Now, finally, after burning it (and several other things) to a CD and
removing
> said files from my HD, I'm installing it...

> --
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> _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com
> '-_____|(

> remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

by **Goy Larse** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 03:47:52

> I R now a 'Registered Racer' :)

I am Weasel ?

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

by **sting3** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 03:59:52

so I start downloading tonight at home at 2k per sec, so how long til I get
it dl'd and home, assuming I can keep the connection alive?
LOL... 140 megs? sheesh

Im going to want to got a friends to DL I assume...

> > I R now a 'Registered Racer' :)

> I am Weasel ?

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> "goyl at nettx dot no"

> http://www.theuspits.com

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--

by **Larr** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:17:50

No worries. It all came as I expected.

-Larry

> I paid by credit card, and it said my key would be emailed to me.

> Am I missing something?

> Larry

> > Downloading's not a problem, I can't get my key, the site must be
> struggling
> > with the traffic.

> > > Good News: It's Out...

> > > Bad News: No Mirrors, As Yet...

> > > www.liveforspeed.net

> > > -jde

by **Larr** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:23:25

It provides NOTHING for the paying customer except for heartache is some way
or another. Every company that has used it has upset customers, and it
doesn't really stop Piracy in any way.

Paying customers are the only one's that, um, pay for it's inclusion.

PowerQuest has also done this with DriveImage 7.0. Not only that, but the
product has been neutered from what it was in version 2002 and is now
virtually useless to me. I have purchased EVERY single version of
DriveImage and PartitionMagic since they were released, spending many
hundreds of dollars on upgrades. That is now over.

I didn't see it coming from PowerQuest, and had purchased before I realized
it. In the past, I had no reason to distrust them, nor to think the product
wouldn't be an improvement. I got screwed for thinking that way this time
and I will not forgive them.

What's worse, DriveImage has become just another also-ran backup program.
It's usefulness as an IMAGING product has been completely lost now.

I pay for ALL of my software, and I feel like I have earned the right to
*** about such things :)

-Larry

> > Oh, God. PLEASE don't tell me this thing has that draconian disaster
known
> > as Product Activation in it?

> Larry:

> It's not nearly as bad as all the blathering on the RSC forum would lead
> you to believe.

> I had no trouble with it. Took a matter of seconds, and worked the
> first time.

> I guess from the developer's end, it's a combination of CYA against
> piracy, a way to boot wreckers, and means of tracking race data for the
> LFS World portion of their site.

> Certainly not a deal breaker, IMHO.

> -jde

by **Larr** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:24:59

I support the SIM by PAYING for it, just like I pay for all the other
software I use. I've done my part. I don't want extranneious bullshit
installed on my computer to satisfy their paranoia.

Larry

> No kidding; what a load of hysteria in the forums. The unlocking bit
worked
> fine here, too; no problem at all. Plus, since the key isn't written to
the
> registry, a simple backup of your LFS directory once it's unlocked
> eliminates any hardware/reformat issues.

> For the very reasonable fee they're asking, I was all too happy to support
> another sim with solid multiplayer - I should think most everyone in this
NG
> would do likewise.

> Looking forward to seeing where they're able to go with LFS...

> SB

by **Larr** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:25:45

It's not a privacy gripe. It's a technology and mistrust gripe, not to
mention the well known issues with this sort of copy protection.

-Larry

> > Oh, God. PLEASE don't tell me this thing has that draconian disaster
> > known as Product Activation in it?

> > If it does, S1 is the LAST level I'll buy.

> > Dammit, I sure hope they didn't destroy what was a perfect thing so
> > far.

> > -Larry

> <snip>

> Larry, fwiw, I just dl'd & reg'd w/o a problem. It only *requires* user
name
> & e-mail addy, & was reatively painless.

> So far, so good. ;o)

> -Brian

by **Larr** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:26:10

Eh? :)

-Larry

> > I R now a 'Registered Racer' :)

> I am Weasel ?

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> "goyl at nettx dot no"

> http://www.theuspits.com

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--

by **Goy Larse** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:36:42

> Eh? :)

There's a cartoon called "I am Weasel and I R Baboon" or something like
that, thought it was a reference :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

by **Larr** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:50:09

Ah, got it :)

-Larry

> > Eh? :)

> There's a cartoon called "I am Weasel and I R Baboon" or something like
> that, thought it was a reference :-)

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> "goyl at nettx dot no"

> http://www.theuspits.com

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--

by **HooTnFa** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 06:16:20

Soooo, how much is it in US cash?

by **Malc** » Sun, 20 Jul 2003 08:06:38

Couldn't care less ;-)

After an evening of mucking about I can tell you the LX6 (Caterham7) is a
right handful ;-)

Can't believe you chaps & chappesses, not a post all evening that I can find
that even mentions what lfs is like to drive.

Anyone else actually had a go then??

Malc.

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