rec.autos.simulators

by **Jonah Falco** » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 03:37:19

Those guys at Ratbag have done it again. Leadfoot is really impressive.

Jonah Falcon

by **Thom j** » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:45:13

Ahhhh? Its ok I guess!! :-)

| Those guys at Ratbag have done it again. Leadfoot is really impressive.
| Jonah Falcon

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by **Jonah Falco** » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 04:30:28

I'm reviewing it for GamePen, so I'll have a fuller review later :)

Jonah Falcon

> Ahhhh? Its ok I guess!! :-)

> | Those guys at Ratbag have done it again. Leadfoot is really impressive.
> | Jonah Falcon

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by **MadDAW** » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 02:44:47

Well I hope you rip them for using the same old game engine and even worse
yet the same***poor online code. I will say their physics model is better
suited to Leadfoot than the oval track games. I feel this is probably
because of the Difference Engines origins in Powerslide. I have seen screen
shots and heard reports of trucks starting at different portions of the
track. I would have to say that Leadfoot is worth the $20 price but a no go
at your $50. Do you really feel that the Leadfoot is comparable in graphic,
online code as say N4? I would have to agree that the AI between the two
games is similar, they are both a bunch of bone heads.

MadDAWG

by **Jon Van Ginneke** » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 04:39:00

Why is it that all Ratbag games aside from that sci-fi racing game fail to
work on my computer? When I had a V3 I would go Blue screen. And now w/
the Leadfoot demo (and my Radeon card) it's all screwed up in d3d...only can
run it in software mode...blech!

Aside from Fifa 2001, can't get in the computer to play the demo at all for
some reason, all true $50 work well (aside from a few texture problems that
are ATI's fault for not so perfect official drivers)

Jon

by **Jonah Falco** » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:41:10

Uuuuuuuuh, not in my opinion, no.

Jonah Falcon

by **Lannie Schafrot** » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 05:04:30

You obviously have something wrong with your system or setup. Leadfoot and
all other Ratbag games will run quite smooth on an OLD ancient V2 card with
only 12Mb ram.

Send me your system specs and video drivers and I'll see what I can do.

> Why is it that all Ratbag games aside from that sci-fi racing game fail to
> work on my computer? When I had a V3 I would go Blue screen. And now w/
> the Leadfoot demo (and my Radeon card) it's all screwed up in d3d...only
can
> run it in software mode...blech!

> Aside from Fifa 2001, can't get in the computer to play the demo at all
for
> some reason, all true $50 work well (aside from a few texture problems
that
> are ATI's fault for not so perfect official drivers)

> Jon

> > Those guys at Ratbag have done it again. Leadfoot is really impressive.

> > Jonah Falcon

by **chainbreake** » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:23:19

Each to his own, I suppose--I've been regretting the twenty bucks I paid.

Jerry Morelock

by JM » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:30:23

According to a post from Saxon on a dtr based news server, the DEII based
games are directX3 wrapped in DX5 and if you can get D3D to work on anything
newer than a TNT consider yourself one of the lucky ones. In so many words,
anyway.
That they still haven't bothered to test the compatibility with more modern
cards, is inexcuseable. I have two ratbag games, I'm not going to buy a
third.

cheers
John (running DTRSC in software mode)

by **Jon Van Ginneke** » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:33:44

PIII 700 128MB RAM
ASUS P3B-F motherboard
AIW Radeon 32MB (7075 drivers)
Turtle Beach Motego (latest DELL OEM drivers) -- admittadly I have to pull
some junk to get the DirectX 8.0a to work with the gameport (uninstall
reinstall gameport interface...everytime)
Gravis Eliminator GamepadPro (4.42)
TM NASCAR Pro (1.02 I think)

Jon

> You obviously have something wrong with your system or setup. Leadfoot
and
> all other Ratbag games will run quite smooth on an OLD ancient V2 card
with
> only 12Mb ram.

> Send me your system specs and video drivers and I'll see what I can do.

> > Why is it that all Ratbag games aside from that sci-fi racing game fail
to
> > work on my computer? When I had a V3 I would go Blue screen. And now
w/
> > the Leadfoot demo (and my Radeon card) it's all screwed up in d3d...only
> can
> > run it in software mode...blech!

> > Aside from Fifa 2001, can't get in the computer to play the demo at all
> for
> > some reason, all true $50 work well (aside from a few texture problems
> that
> > are ATI's fault for not so perfect official drivers)

> > Jon

> > > Those guys at Ratbag have done it again. Leadfoot is really
impressive.

> > > Jonah Falcon

by **Nad** » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:51:49

It appears they have the cookie cutter in action at Ratbag when it comes to
the engine and graphics.

by **Lannie Schafrot** » Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:50:04

You've definitely setup something wrong then. We have tested all three with
new and some of the latest hardware and it flies on them. Software mode is
quite rare.

> > You obviously have something wrong with your system or setup. Leadfoot
> and
> > all other Ratbag games will run quite smooth on an OLD ancient V2 card
> with
> > only 12Mb ram.

> > Send me your system specs and video drivers and I'll see what I can do.

> According to a post from Saxon on a dtr based news server, the DEII based
> games are directX3 wrapped in DX5 and if you can get D3D to work on
anything
> newer than a TNT consider yourself one of the lucky ones. In so many
words,
> anyway.
> That they still haven't bothered to test the compatibility with more
modern
> cards, is inexcuseable. I have two ratbag games, I'm not going to buy a
> third.

> cheers
> John (running DTRSC in software mode)

by JM » Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:20:22

the only thing wrong with my setup is ratbag games.
everything else is fine thanks.

cheers
John

by **MadDAW** » Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:36:37

Not that rare I have known quite a few set ups that would only run in
software mode, including mine. I will say that I did get it to run in d3d
after returning my clock settings back to standard instead of the
overclocked state I was use to running in Win98SE. So far nobody has been
able to give me a good reason why all the Ratbag titles would run in D3D
with an overclocked CPU in win98se but not in ME. Only Ratbag games were
effected this way Papy, ISI, etc all ran fine overclocked in ME. BTW that
post from Saxon was in reply to me when I was trying to get them running.

MadDAWG

by JM » Fri, 29 Jun 2001 04:06:54

I don't overclock anything in my system. I also have triple the cooling
capacity in the case as of today. leadfoot jammed solid on the startline in
D3D, I'd at least get a couple of laps in DTRSC before freezing ;o)

Ratbag games worked ok in D3D with my elsa erazor III TNT2m64 card, but
freeze up with my Hercules Prophet 2 MX (with added cooling fan). I'm not
going back to the TNT2 and missing out on frames/sec in N4 and GPL though,
so I race software mode DTRSC and don't buy ratbag games. simple really :D

cheers
John

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