>I went into hospital on June 6Th when GPal was announced for June 7th (or
>8th or whatever).
> >I went into hospital on June 6Th when GPal was announced for June 7th (or
> >8th or whatever).
Ive said this before, but I am amazed at all the add ons available to the
community. We have some awesome talent among us. I wish I had the ability to
contribute to the sim racing fans like so many among us do.
If more people had your attitude and I was one of the people with these
skills... Id basically tell you to kiss off. I would develop it for myself
and give it to only those who appreciate the effort.
Just my opinion though.
Scott
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No doubt Jack thought he could keep to the initial timescales - otherwise he
would not have suggested them.
The workplace is full of missed deadlines. We probably all know a roadworks
project running way over expectations. Certainly anyone in the computer
software or related industry is well aware of slipping launch dates. Indeed
there will always be uncertainty when estimating timescales, and those
little problems always crop up that weren't in the initial plan.
This is in the workplace where we get paid to come up with deadlines and
control the resources to meet them.
Outside of the workplace and hobbies have to take lower priorities. Add the
uncertainties of domestic life and plans simply go out the window. Car
restoration projects, house renovations, DIY projects - how many of us have
been way too optimistic in planning when we will get it all done. Something
always takes longer than expected or distractions take us away from our
projects.
Enthusiasm adds to the over optimistic planning - the desire to see the
finished article adds means we so often dismiss the potential pitfalls and
plan for the perfect scenario - of course this seldom ever is the case.
Add all sorts of other factors - pressures of work, family demands, delays
of related supplies or products (in this case did the delayed launch of GPL
1.1 patch have a bearing?) and we start to understand why a hobby might take
so much longer than originally thought.
So lets try to be a bit more understanding towards a very enthusiastic GPL
fan who wants to ensure his product is spot on before launch.
The GPL 1.1 patch has done little to improve on-line play for me - so I
eagerly await GPaL to make the off-line play super competitive at every
track - I'm e***d by the prospect.
Cheers
Tony
Give Jack some time, I am sure GPaL will be finished soon.
Guys like you***me off... Always complaining about when something
is released trying to push the author into releasing it. People like you are
also the first to complain when something has a bug in it.
That bug is there because people like YOU pushed the author
into releasing something which isn't actually finished yet!
This really pisses me off!
Jack: Take your time and amaze us when GPaL is done ;-) !
-MiXer-
the fact is that jack is NOT a professional.... he's doing this on his own
time, for FREE!
(well, i think it's free... maybe it's shareware? i'm sure it's not
expensive, either way. sorry.).
it's incredibly ironic that you'd demand more *professional* behavior from a
*non-professional*.
so he's had some setbacks. big deal. what have *you* done to help (him or
the sim-racing community in general)?
you may well be a really nice person, but this post makes you sound like a
real jerk.
glad you're out of the hospital, though....
companion to GPL", as much I am disappointed with Jacks professional
attitude.
If you can't get your things done, then quit them.
I am sorry Jack, but I think you should go for a more professional
approach...
Yours -
Reaperle
That would be to charge for GPaL, by definition. I prefer to wait a
few more days and get it for free (though in fact I would gladly pay
$10 - $15 for it).
Joe McGinn
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Take a chill pill, whydontya.........!
I get paid to manage customer expectation, and I know how hard it can be....
and yeah Jack has managed our expectation poorly, but we aint paying him, so
you have no right to whinge........
So unless you are ready with the "readies", and are prepared to pay for
Jack's next project, just shut up and wait like the rest of us.
What do you do "professionally"??, and school does not count BTW....
SteveG
> Somewhat strong language for a man who did lots of perfect work for the
> simracing community.
> Nobody rushed you ever, right?
> And you did perfect work with Sjon's GP2 site.
> Congratulations after quite a while.
> But you never made promises you couldn't keep.
> You just made your work.
> That's professional!
> So - calm down.
> Criticism is a part of a democratical society. And it basically works for
> the sake of the community.
> So what...
> R.
> > Quit complaining!
> > Give Jack some time, I am sure GPaL will be finished soon.
> > Guys like you***me off... Always complaining about when something
> > is released trying to push the author into releasing it. People like you
> are
> > also the first to complain when something has a bug in it.
> > That bug is there because people like YOU pushed the author
> > into releasing something which isn't actually finished yet!
> > This really pisses me off!
> > Jack: Take your time and amaze us when GPaL is done ;-) !
> > -MiXer-
> > >O.k., I'd like to appreciate any effort to enhance computer-based
racing
> > >simulations.
> > >I also think that work, private life or even sleep should have a higher
> > >priority than things you do with your computer for the sake of other
> > >people's fun.
> > >But there is one thing I don't like:
> > >Making promises you can not keep (and if not promises - announcements
> will
> > >do also, if repeated.)
> > >I went into hospital on June 6Th when GPal was announced for June 7th
(or
> > >8th or whatever). Now its July 15th and Jack has postponed once again.
> > >The problem is: I'm not even sure that GPal is necessary, but I'd like
to
> > >see it anyway. And maybe it's really useful.
> > >But it is in fact a not very professional way to announce products for
a
> > >date you can not keep.
> > >It is a way to push expectations. Expectations you can probably fulfill
> > >under no circumstances.
> > >GPal seems to be a perfect example of such an unhealthy behavior.
> > >Jack is keeping expectations high and flying but is promising nothing
in
> > >reality.
> > >As much as I would like to see a program which would make the "perfect
> > >companion to GPL", as much I am disappointed with Jacks professional
> > >attitude.
> > >If you can't get your things done, then quit them.
> > >I am sorry Jack, but I think you should go for a more professional
> > >approach...
> > >Yours -
> > >Reaperle
Don McCorkle
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a refund due to me from the IRS.
He is being bombarded with requests asking him when it will be released.
He says I "expect" it so and so. He discovers a bug. Instead of distributing
it with bugs and getting flamed to hell for it, he delays it and spends his
free time (which he could be using to race, spend with family, sleep, etc)
to correct the error. Its catch 22. He is flamed if he says when and he
is flamed when he doesn't.
Its just a shame for someone who is making a personal sacrifice to provide
a product for OUR benefit.
Scott
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Well, o.k., that's right.
Maybe my approach was a bit over the top. Jack is not a professional after
all, but I thought I had made it clear that I believe that GPal should be a
somewhat not-so-important part in his life.
But working on a project is one thing and to keep people waiting for this is
another thing. And Jack's announcements leave me with the impression that he
is overenthusiastic with letting people waiting for GPal. He is building
expectations. If he would have been working on it and releasing it one day,
I would see no problem at all. Right now there is a possibility that lots of
people are expecting GPal to be the "cure-all" of GPL's shortcomings. And I
fear that Gpal can't live to the expectations of many people. This would be
a shame, as I sincerely believe that GPal will be a marvelous tool.
The "unprofessional approach" that I suspect concerns not Jack's work as a
programmer, but his work in "public relations".
Keep expectations low, and your customers will praise you.
Jack didn't keep expectations low. This is what I find unprofessional.
And - you were perfectly right - is of course just my opinion.
R