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by **Brian Fo** » Mon, 21 Apr 1997 04:00:00

To make a long story short, someone has recently posted a webpage with
nothing but my Days of Thunder cars for nascar 1 on it. To make things
interesting, he has attached a file to these cars saying that he designed
them. After politely asking this person to remove my cars several times,
he has refused. His first reply said that he had modified my cars, which
he later changed to stating that he created them to begin with. It is
obvious he has not changed a single pixel, but he still refuses to remove
them. No one from geocities has given any advice. I have kept all of his
messages as well as the messages I sent him if that helps any.

What would be the best thing to do here?

--
Brian Fox

Geocities' MotorCity Community Leader
Get your own free homepage at http://www.racesimcentral.net/

The Fox Den: Nascar 1 and 2, ICR2, GP2 and my Streetrod.
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

by **James Dunph** » Mon, 21 Apr 1997 04:00:00

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well Brian were is this page???

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by **SimSpee** » Tue, 22 Apr 1997 04:00:00

> To make a long story short, someone has recently posted a webpage with
> nothing but my Days of Thunder cars for nascar 1 on it. To make things
> interesting, he has attached a file to these cars saying that he designed
> them. After politely asking this person to remove my cars several times,
> he has refused. His first reply said that he had modified my cars, which
> he later changed to stating that he created them to begin with. It is
> obvious he has not changed a single pixel, but he still refuses to remove
> them. No one from geocities has given any advice. I have kept all of his
> messages as well as the messages I sent him if that helps any.

> What would be the best thing to do here?

Ron Jon's from SimSpeed and claimed it as his own. I sent a mesasage to
the webmaster of the page asking him to correct the credit on the car. I
suggest you post the page that stole your car and we can all either
avoid the paghe or flood him with e-mail requesting a fix to your
situation. It really makes me mad when people steal complete cars and
call them their own!!!

--

Dave Molloy

Southern Illinois University
Turfgrass Student

PENSKE Racing...Go Rusty, Go Little Al, Go Paul!!!

Car Designer for SIMSPEED: http://www.git.net/simspeed/

by **Dave Mollo** » Tue, 22 Apr 1997 04:00:00

The above message was posted by Dave Molloy NOT by SimSpeed. Forgot to
change my name back.

> --

> Dave Molloy

> Southern Illinois University
> Turfgrass Student

> PENSKE Racing...Go Rusty, Go Little Al, Go Paul!!!

> Car Designer for SIMSPEED: http://www.git.net/simspeed/

--

Dave Molloy

Southern Illinois University
Turfgrass Student

PENSKE Racing...Go Rusty, Go Little Al, Go Paul!!!

Car Designer for SIMSPEED: http://www.git.net/simspeed/

by **Bob Stanle** » Tue, 22 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Brian,

I dont know much about the legal aspects of this, but I do know that
whoever is doing this is pretty low. You might just want to announce
publicly who this person is. There is no way that someone else should
get/take credit for your fine work. I dont understand it. Brian has
made custom cars for lots of us (LSM included). Why would someone
sink so low and be so stupid as to do a thing like this?
Thanks for your great work Brian! The majority of us know who really
did the "Days of Thunder Cars".
Regards,
Bob

Bob_Stanley on Hawaii
LightSpeed! MotorSports http://www.cfw.com/~aldhizer/lightspeed.html
Driver of the #34 Chevy Painted by Brian Fox

by **Mike Fraz** » Tue, 22 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Unless you went out and got em copyrighted, yer screwed. Right now
nothing on MY page (which has nothing to do with NASCAR) is
copyrighted and it is just inviting em to steal stuff. Hopefully they
wont but thats life.

Mike

Mike Frazer
#11 American Airlines/STP/MBNA Ford, IGN
Prime Time Motorsports

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Thu, 24 Apr 1997 04:00:00

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If you know of where you can get legitimate, inexpensive and genuine legal
advice I would suggest you seek same. I don't know how the "copyright" law
would stand up here because you have actually used someone else's creation
to create your own liveries. Don't take that the wrong way....it's just
that the 3-D and 2-D shapes that you are "repainting" were not created by
you. Also, how would you stand when it comes to you having reproduced
various liveries, which include registered and copyrighted logos and
advertising slogans? Follow my meaning?

That's why an expert legal opinion may be the best way to start any action.

--
Bruce.
"Insanity is hereditary......parents inherit it from their children."
(Anonymous parent)

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that the 3-D and 2-D shapes that you are "repainting" were not =
created by you.  Also, how would you stand when it comes to you =
having reproduced various liveries, which include registered and =
copyrighted logos and advertising slogans?  Follow my meaning? =
 That's why an expert legal opinion may be the best way to start =
any action. -- Bruce. "Insanity is =
hereditary......parents inherit it from their =
children." (Anonymous parent) Brian Fox <>... > To make a long story short, =
someone has recently posted a webpage with > nothing but my Days =
of Thunder cars for nascar 1 on it.  To make things > =
interesting, he has attached a file to these cars saying that he =
designed > them.  After politely asking this person to remove =
my cars several times, > he has refused.  His first reply =
said that he had modified my cars, which > he later changed to =
stating that he created them to begin with.  It is > obvious =
he has not changed a single pixel, but he still refuses to =
remove > them.  No one from geocities has given any advice. =
 I have kept all of his > messages as well as the messages I =
sent him if that helps any.   > > What would be the =
best thing to do here? > > > -- > Brian =
Fox > > Geocities' MotorCity Community Leader > Get =
your own free homepage at http://www.geocities.com > > The Fox Den:  Nascar 1 and 2, =
ICR2, GP2 and my Streetrod. > http://www.4w.com/pages/fox AND/OR > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1238 > 
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by **John Mela** » Thu, 24 Apr 1997 04:00:00

<snip>

I'm surprised that nobody from (was it Paramount Studios?) contacted
you and told you to knock it off!
--John Melair

They're not bugs! They're random features!
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to change my email information, like everyone else.
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by **ymenar** » Sun, 27 Apr 1997 04:00:00

> I would be great if Papyrus could come up with a way to digitally sign
> a CAR file or PCX. At least with that solution the creator's
> signature would be forever attached to the file, even if someone
> posted it on their own webpage and dubbed it their own creation.
> Imagine viewing a PCX or CAR file in N2 (or future version) and having
> a small line at the bottom of the screen that says "Created by:....".

> >If you know of where you can get legitimate, inexpensive and genuine legal
> >advice I would suggest you seek same. I don't know how the "copyright" law
> >would stand up here because you have actually used someone else's creation
> >to create your own liveries. Don't take that the wrong way....it's just
> >that the 3-D and 2-D shapes that you are "repainting" were not created by
> >you. Also, how would you stand when it comes to you having reproduced
> >various liveries, which include registered and copyrighted logos and
> >advertising slogans? Follow my meaning?

> >That's why an expert legal opinion may be the best way to start any action.

Maybe with the picture at the upper left of the screen (with the
blank.pcx file. I don't think that (AFAIK) you can extract a picture
from a .CAR file. Web site (like IWCCARS, NPW or SPEED) now put their
logo at the bottom of the picture. Thanks a lot,

Good race at the Brickyard, (Old'Indytrack guy in rec.autos.simulators)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ =ymenard now!!!
SPEED- http://www.nascarnet.com/~speed
[===] Go Rubens Barrichello, Jacques Villeneuve,

| ! | And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
|!| from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
|o| Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

[--I--]
v
Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
May the force be with you, always!!
Que la force soit avec toi, jamais!(for you French people)
Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking)

by **Eric T. Busc** » Sun, 27 Apr 1997 04:00:00

You can't extract a PCX, but why would you want to? All you have to do is
import a new PCX to cover up the original one, and you have a car w/out
credit given to the author.

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