I guess I lost you by saying you bashed them... was unintentional honest,
my intent was to say something with few words, meaning that we can not say
that EA couldn't build a realistic sim at all...
So please dont think I was doggin that you dogged EA, hell I hate em for not
having enough pride to include realism, on top of thier selling eye candy
***that they produce too, So I was merely stating that we can only whine
about it, cause "we" really dont matter in the end.... LOL!!
> I wasn't bashing EA at all, notice I didn't use the word EA at all in my
> post. I don't care if the EA game is realistic or not, I don't have the
time
> to play more then 2 racing games (GPL and F1C) so I'm not going to buy it
> even if it was great.
> Who I WAS bashing are NASCAR teams for going to an entertainment company
for
> testing instead of a commericial company. Simply put, any entertainment
> company is going to put excessive resources into graphics that are simply
> unneeded in a simulation of the track. Please understand what I mean by
> this. I'm calling ANY graphics excessive...you only need basic colors for
> the team to know where the track is and where the car is. For a REAL
> simulation, the track and cars have to be perfectly modeled...none of
which
> we get in any simulation at the moment.
> > Hey,
> > You cant really bash EA like that, I mean, they code what sells... look
> at
> > their demographics, I bet it is like 10-26 ages, and 90% of them want to
> > drive fast and crash. you got to admit that the games does that pretty
> > well, if not one of the best...
> > Simulation is a Niche, a small one at that, you know it, because of 200
> > online racers (papyrus NR2003 for example), 80% of them have all the
> driving
> > aids turned on, and I bet half don't have a wheel. and every week
someone
> > is reviewing the games without even a joystick. Now how can you do
that,
> if
> > the market share gave a ***about Physics? can you say, because most
> don't
> > care... that is why they worry more about fancy wrecks than realism...
> > They code to their market. I hate their games so far, as compared to
what
> I
> > like (gpl NR4-03), but my GF's kid loves em. They buy more games a year
> > than I do (like they bought 3 games this weekend where I wont buy 3
games
> in
> > a year usually. So I can say I don't make much difference to EA and
their
> > marketing research, and I think neither do you (not a dig).
> > IMHO, EA _would_ have the MONEY, and Inclination & the talent, to build
a
> > pretty good SIM, if their market is NASCAR ITSELF, don't you think?
Plus
> > they know it would sell for bigger bucs... it is called producing for
the
> > market. that is why so many things aren't in EA's games, not enough
> people
> > care about the "missing elements" that we notice, so they don't bother!
> > Making money is a formula,
> > selling price * number of copies
> > _________________________ = Profits
> > cost to produce + cost to market
> > if there are 1 million people in the "market" but only 10% care if the
> game
> > is realistic, where to you suppose the money is spent in coding a game,
> eye
> > candy or realism? Pride of "most realistic or perfect simulator in the
> > world" will not keep the doors of any business open.
> > > Seriously...if they really want to produce it correctly, they need to
> get
> > > some third party company that isn't interested in graphics AT ALL to
> build
> > > the track and what not. I know Papy's game is so much better...but
> still,
> > no
> > > doubt there are areas that could be improved.
> > > > > Drivers to test Homestead.....virtually: Winston Cup drivers won't
> be
> > > > > allowed to test their cars on the new banking at Homestead-Miami
> > > Speedway
> > > > > until the week of the season finale, but they will be able to race
> the
> > > new
> > > > > course on a new computer-program simulator being developed for
> > NASCAR's
> > > > > stock-car teams by Electronic Arts.
> > > > EA? hahahaha
