rec.autos.simulators

Here's my responSe to your 'responce'.

The incredible variety of different track configurations in Burnout makes
that really impressive  (snicker)

You see, so do I.  I own a business and work 9 1/2 hours a day, I am also
married and I have a 17 month old daughter and 3 dogs. They all get all the
attention they should get.  I do all the cooking at my house and anything
else that needs to be done around here or on the four cars we own.  I don't
have a lot of spare time, and I don't spend all of my spare time practicing
GPL, either.

I spun out on the first lap I took in GPL and I spin out now and then these
days when I am getting overzealous.  It didn't take me weeks, days or even
hours to be able to drive GPL successfully.

Actually, it is a simulator, not a game.  I have a load of FUN doing it or I
wouldn't do it.  GPL is lots of FUN.  *YOU* don't have any fun with it.

I wouldn't know, I haven't even opened either of the books that came with
it.  Actually, that's not true.  I opened one to stick the other inside it
so they wouldnt get separated.

My point is that just because YOU can't drive a lap in GPL without spinning
doesn't mean the sim is too hard or that there is anything inherently wrong
with it..it means YOU can't drive it well enough to complete a lap.  I am
not obsessed with the sim, I don't spend hours practicing it and I have a
very busy and full life, yet I can complete laps with no problems and even
finish in the top 10 in some races.  It's the exact same sim you are trying
to drive, how come I can do it and you can't?  I don't think it's the sim's
fault  :o)

~daxe
"religion is remedial spirituality"

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Yes but this GPL.  You will learn the hard way with those cars.  As you
would in real-life.

It's VERY fun for the market they aimed for.  For that market (Hard-core
simracers who have the time to master those cars) it's a work of art..
something that is so incredible the words aren't enough to descrive the
accuracy of a Lotus going into the Masta Kink at Spa.

If you prefer games that don't require a steep learning curve, heh Im sorry
for you but GPL is NOT the title you should had bought.

No.  It's about the same size (if we add the two of them) to any previous
Papyrus manual. At least they don't go with the current trend of putting it
in HTML on the CD. Heck be happy you have a manual, there's soo many
software these days with a 7page manual or so.

As with OpenGL ;-)

-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-= May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Have a life? Seems to me that you spend your time mastering games such as
"N2,Viper,SODA, [and] Burnout". Or are those games just so simple or you so
talented that you mastered them overnight? I think if all the cards were on
the table, we'd all "definatly" discover that GPL fans have elected to spend
time, comparable to the time you spend on that **impressive** combination of
games and tracks, mastering the GPL sim.

Since you were so quick to ridicule large numbers of readers of this
newsgroup with your statement about having a life, please post some of the
details of that life of yours so that we can all compare notes. My bet is
that since you had to tell us all that you "HAVE A LIFE," you don't.

P.S. Smart that you started a new thread with you post, we'll need the extra
room to read the responses.

You'll probably pick it up sooner than you think. Start with Monza (demo
available) and work on to the difficult tracks.

Chess, soccer, American football and even, heck, motor racing are all games. Does
that make them any less worth investing time in? What is the point here?

Ah! Well GPL is the most fun I've ever had on a computer.

Oh, we shall have to agree to differ here.

Well don't buy N3 - it'll be using the GPL physics engine.

B etter t han m any I'v e s een.

Hmm - GPL is good. Try it for a bit longer and you may find you like it
(something like Green Eggs and Ham spring to mind here). Seeing as you like N2,
SODA and Viper (all good sims) - I'd be surprised if you didn't end up liking it.

Paul

Woo. Hoo.

You, see, It doesn't take hours! Just a little patience and soon you're
on your way. And it is not a game. It is a sim. The best sim ever :-)
I too have a life outside GPL. Beyond going to school, I also have a
business to run (age doesn't matter on the net) and I find time for a
healthy social life and of course my girlfriend. I drive GPL on average
for about half-an-hour to an hour a day.
If you're not into GPL, fair enough. You're free to post your opinions
here but just don't say that everyone who doesn't agree is wrong.

Cheers!
Graeme Nash

http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk
ICQ# 11257824

1998 Xoom GP2 League Champion

He's not ALL bad.

;o)

~daxe
"always ready to be obnoxious and correct spelling errors"

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It's funny how people always equate being married to "having a life".

My idea of "having a life" is doing something you like/want to do -
regardless of what that is, as long as you enjoy it.

If someone is happy watching paint dry, then they "have a life".
Nothing I would enjoy, but as long as he/she is happy.

What makes you think that N2 and Burnout or not sims, and only a
"game" as you've stated?

I don't enjoy those 2 forms of racing, but they ARE sims.

They are ALL basically the same to me as far as difficulty. I've yet to
equate success with any of them to real life potential and will never do so
without making myself laugh.

Try running a 1:37 at Suzuka in MGPRS2 and tell me it's easy.

David G Fisher