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Isn't steering help on by default with a joystick?
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> Well, I installed GPL on April 13 of this year and would've given up already
> if it wasn't for one thing: a joystick. I tried for weeks with a wheel and
> couldn't get within 5 seconds of the Papy benchmark at any track. I
> switched to a joystick and my handicap dropped from +80 to -1 in four days
> (history file is under the name dougcio if you'd like to see it). I went
> negative about 10 weeks after I first installed the game.
> So there you go:)
> dc
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I think one of the reasons a joystick is so much easier is because there is
less "travel distance" in the controls. What I mean is that in GPL you
often to have make some pretty big corrections in steering, and also have to
throw the car around a lot. With a joystick you can go from steering
100%left to 100%right by moving the stick about two inches, on a wheel
that'd take probably 8 inches and and maybe a second longer. It just gives
you a lot better control of the car I think. Acceleration is the same way,
you can really manipulate the gas in the corners by just a slight movement
of the stick (and I find it difficult to control anything with my feet
anyway:). Also in general I find it a lot easier to not have to coordinate
my hands with my feet, unless you're a professional race car driver I would
think most people would have problems with a wheel/pedals for that reason, I
know I do. I think a wheel is good for driving where you have to be
"smooth" (like ovals), but for GPL I think being able to really throw the
car around and make quick corrections in more important :)
Make sense? ;) In all fairness I did play N2 for a couple of years with a
joystick, I switched to a wheel for N3/4, but never enjoyed it as much as
N2, so I went back to a joystick fo GPL. GPL is absolutely wonderful by the
way:) I can't believe I missed out on the first 3 years of it... I was
waiting for N4 to come out before upgrading my computer, what a mistake that
was...
dc
No, GPL can't tell a joystick from a wheel, they both just use an X and Y
axis... I think if you try to use a keyboard it forces dirving aids on, but
even I'm not that crazy to try that :)
dc
>> Well, I installed GPL on April 13 of this year and would've given up
>already
>> if it wasn't for one thing: a joystick. I tried for weeks with a wheel and
>> couldn't get within 5 seconds of the Papy benchmark at any track. I
>> switched to a joystick and my handicap dropped from +80 to -1 in four days
>> (history file is under the name dougcio if you'd like to see it). I went
>> negative about 10 weeks after I first installed the game.
>> So there you go:)
>> dc
>Geeezzz......
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>I think one of the reasons a joystick is so much easier is because there is
>less "travel distance" in the controls. What I mean is that in GPL you
>often to have make some pretty big corrections in steering, and also have to
>throw the car around a lot. With a joystick you can go from steering
>100%left to 100%right by moving the stick about two inches, on a wheel
>that'd take probably 8 inches and and maybe a second longer. It just gives
>you a lot better control of the car I think. Acceleration is the same way,
>you can really manipulate the gas in the corners by just a slight movement
>of the stick (and I find it difficult to control anything with my feet
>anyway:). Also in general I find it a lot easier to not have to coordinate
>my hands with my feet, unless you're a professional race car driver I would
>think most people would have problems with a wheel/pedals for that reason, I
>know I do. I think a wheel is good for driving where you have to be
>"smooth" (like ovals), but for GPL I think being able to really throw the
>car around and make quick corrections in more important :)
Eldred
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It's never seemed too realistic that a joystick is so much better for this
game than a wheel.
David G Fisher
>It's never seemed too realistic that a joystick is so much better for this
>game than a wheel.
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| Wouldn't you get a quicker(and thus easier to control/go fast) response
with a
| joystic no matter WHAT game you ran? I'm about to install a joystick so I
can
| play Superbike 2001. It's just too 'laggy' using a wheel, and I can't
change
| the sensitivity in the game... :-(
|
| Eldred
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A joystick for a motorcycle sim makes more sense because you steer a bike
mostly by shifting your weight and leaning.
David G Fisher
> >> I
> >> switched to a joystick and my handicap dropped from +80 to -1 in four
days
> >It's never seemed too realistic that a joystick is so much better for
this
> >game than a wheel.
> Wouldn't you get a quicker(and thus easier to control/go fast) response
with a
> joystic no matter WHAT game you ran? I'm about to install a joystick so I
can
> play Superbike 2001. It's just too 'laggy' using a wheel, and I can't
change
> the sensitivity in the game... :-(
> Eldred
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> Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59...
> Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
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If you find a good control setup for SBK2001, please let me know. I
love the game but I haven't found the perfect controller for it yet. I
have tried my Logitech wheel, my Sidewinder FF joystick, my Sidewinder
gamepad, and my old Interact handheld wheel/gas trigger stick and none
seems perfect.
Todd Walker
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I'd say a bit of non-linearity will avoid these things, as I found out
yesterday when I implemented it and could suddenly drive quite a bit
better with the mouse. :)
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