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GPL site setups/replays and F12002 mod potential?

David Powel

GPL site setups/replays and F12002 mod potential?

by David Powel » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:58:06

Hey all,

Just brainstormed some ideas about the mod potential of F1 2002 and my
purist feelings on it to my site, also you can get my GPL setups and replays
here also...

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Enjoy..

David...

Damien Smit

GPL site setups/replays and F12002 mod potential?

by Damien Smit » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:01:20


Very nice looking page, but a few things...

1. File checking is all that's needed for a level playing field - I'm sure
Simon Philips can tell you more about this than I can...

2. The car setup option screens can be customized in a mod to allow only
certain parameters to be changed...again file checking can enforce
this...The FIAGTV3 mod should prove that wildly different cars can be
accurately modelled in the game engine.

The question is, how good is the file checking in F12002.  I don't seem to
recall seeing any cheats on F12001 rank, so I would guess that Simon has
implemented something similar in the new telemetry.

--
Damien Smith

ICQ: 77028579
F12001 rank: -11.512

Andreas Nystr?

GPL site setups/replays and F12002 mod potential?

by Andreas Nystr? » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 18:45:59

The exe itself checks for modified physics. If its modified you wont be able
to submit your laptimes, or race online.
If someone with modified physics enters a host, he will be verified. If he
fails the verify, he will be kicked out automaticly.
This is checked before each even too, so you cant alt-tab in practice, to
enter qualify with modifed physics nor the race.

I think its worse in GPL where there are no checking at all for cheaters,
and only the few who knows how, can do it.


Andreas Nystr?

GPL site setups/replays and F12002 mod potential?

by Andreas Nystr? » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 18:48:28

Forgot one thing " Here lies another problem with 3rd party add-ons, you
still have all set-ups options available for a recreated lotus 49 in a
simulation designed for use with modern F1, how do these options like 3rd
spring, spring packers and brake duct size effect a car that never had these
options."

Just edit out the 3rd spring and it wont be used in the physics.
and btw, you will need todo a new suspension for the car, and this is only
possible in F1 2001 / 2002. (susp.pm) which defines how the suspension
parts is joined togheter etc. No other sim has that from what ive seen.

brakeduct size can be set to fully open, and just edit out too so it cant be
changed.


David Powel

GPL site setups/replays and F12002 mod potential?

by David Powel » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 23:30:46

you get the idea of what im saying...these small things are just the tip of
very large icerberg....


> Forgot one thing " Here lies another problem with 3rd party add-ons, you
> still have all set-ups options available for a recreated lotus 49 in a
> simulation designed for use with modern F1, how do these options like 3rd
> spring, spring packers and brake duct size effect a car that never had
these
> options."

> Just edit out the 3rd spring and it wont be used in the physics.
> and btw, you will need todo a new suspension for the car, and this is only
> possible in F1 2001 / 2002. (susp.pm) which defines how the suspension
> parts is joined togheter etc. No other sim has that from what ive seen.

> brakeduct size can be set to fully open, and just edit out too so it cant
be
> changed.



> > Hey all,

> > Just brainstormed some ideas about the mod potential of F1 2002 and my
> > purist feelings on it to my site, also you can get my GPL setups and
> replays
> > here also...

> > http://home.clara.net/david.powell4/

> > Enjoy..

> > David...

Dave Henri

GPL site setups/replays and F12002 mod potential?

by Dave Henri » Thu, 20 Jun 2002 12:49:24


   yes, well when somebody actually produces an FIA sim that gets the GTS
cars right, then I'll put away the FIAGT F1 mod.  When somebody sells an
ALMS sim that feels right and has the proper tracks...I'll dump that mod.
When somebody produces a CART sim, I'll erase another.  When somebody
figures out the proper LMP 900 physics and tracks and such,  I'll dump that
beta.
  I know the mods are not  right, are not even close in some respects...but
they are a damn sight better than the alternative....
dave henrie


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