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OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

Barton Brow

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Barton Brow » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00

DailyF1 News reports that Williams/BMW announced yesterday: "Zanardi
will not drive for us in 2000"

Current rumors hint at Jos Verstappen or JJ Lehto, with an outside
chance for newcomers Jenson Button and Bruno Junqueira...

Once again, an Indycar driver fails to make the grade in F1. Maybe
Dennis Vitolo...

BB

Schlom

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Schlom » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00

One year isnt near enough time to familirize yourself with an F1 car.  And for
the record Hakkenin didnt do a damn bit better than Andretti for the rest of
that season.  Yea hes winning races now but thats 5 years later...hes had
plenty of time to get used to the ins-and-outs of an F1 car.  Not to mention
McLaren has gotten a car thats probably the best in F1 today.

Chris

Mark Seer

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Mark Seer » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00


A F1 driver originally before going to Indy.
for

Come on. The guy was hardly a F1 Rookie, had plenty of testing and never
showed any reasonable improvement all season. 1 race was good enough for
Villeneuve. He would have won his first run at Melbourne were it not for an
oil leak on his car.

Apart from the fact that he outqualified Senna on his first outing! I think
the guy did pretty good in a team going through it's death throes before
joining the Macca's

 Yea hes winning races now but thats 5 years later...hes had

No more or less than anyone else. Cars have changed pretty radically in the
last few years.

  Not to mention

Aint that the case with most champions these days

MS

Wayne Hutchiso

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Wayne Hutchiso » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I'd put my money on Button to get the seat. The kid is good!

Wayne Hutchison


Greg Cisk

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Greg Cisk » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Do you people even realize that Zanardi was a F1 driver in
the early-mid 90's before he became a CART superstar???

BTW, he sucked back then and proved that his problem was
not equipment.

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> > >Once again, an Indycar driver fails to >make the grade in F1

> A F1 driver originally before going to Indy.

> > One year isnt near enough time to familirize yourself with an F1 car.
And
> for

> Come on. The guy was hardly a F1 Rookie, had plenty of testing and never
> showed any reasonable improvement all season. 1 race was good enough for
> Villeneuve. He would have won his first run at Melbourne were it not for
an
> oil leak on his car.

> > the record Hakkenin didnt do a damn bit better than Andretti for the
rest
> of
> > that season.

> Apart from the fact that he outqualified Senna on his first outing! I
think
> the guy did pretty good in a team going through it's death throes before
> joining the Macca's

>  Yea hes winning races now but thats 5 years later...hes had
> > plenty of time to get used to the ins-and-outs of an F1 car.

> No more or less than anyone else. Cars have changed pretty radically in
the
> last few years.

>   Not to mention
> > McLaren has gotten a car thats probably the best in F1 today.

> Aint that the case with most champions these days

> MS

Greg Cisk

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Greg Cisk » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00


This isn't surprising. Zanardi sucked when he was a back
marker in F1 in the early 90's. IMHO it just shows that a poor
F1 driver can kick ass in CART.

Vitolo??? Please. I am hoping that Dario F will give F1 a shot.

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Stif

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Stif » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Yes Dario in an F1 car would ROCK!!!!



> > DailyF1 News reports that Williams/BMW announced yesterday: "Zanardi
> > will not drive for us in 2000"

> > Current rumors hint at Jos Verstappen or JJ Lehto, with an outside
> > chance for newcomers Jenson Button and Bruno Junqueira...

> > Once again, an Indycar driver fails to make the grade in F1. Maybe
> > Dennis Vitolo...

> This isn't surprising. Zanardi sucked when he was a back
> marker in F1 in the early 90's. IMHO it just shows that a poor
> F1 driver can kick ass in CART.

> Vitolo??? Please. I am hoping that Dario F will give F1 a shot.

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Stif

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Stif » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Zanardi drove for Lotus and back then Lotus SUCKED! So give the guy a break
he did not have the best car then. As far as him being a great CART driver I
think that 90% is your car anyway. Just look at Eddie Irvine, this guy
couldn't get out of his own way before Ferrari. Another example is Jacques
Villeneuve. World champion in 97 could barely make the podium in 98 and
finished only a handful of races in 99. Look at Damon Hill. Need I keep
going? Are these guys bad drivers? I dont think so. It is like horse racing,
the guy with the best horse will win most of the time. You need the car to
win. I know that Schumacher (Ralf) out raced him every race but he was also
not use to the car (same thing with Damon Hill). They even put the CART
style breaks on the Williams last year to try and help Zanardi. I think if
you put Micheal Schumacher in a shitty car he would not do well either (and
on that note he would be alot faster than anyone else in the same car!).
Just my opinion.
Al Stiff

> Do you people even realize that Zanardi was a F1 driver in
> the early-mid 90's before he became a CART superstar???

> BTW, he sucked back then and proved that his problem was
> not equipment.

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> > > >Once again, an Indycar driver fails to >make the grade in F1

> > A F1 driver originally before going to Indy.

> > > One year isnt near enough time to familirize yourself with an F1 car.
> And
> > for

> > Come on. The guy was hardly a F1 Rookie, had plenty of testing and never
> > showed any reasonable improvement all season. 1 race was good enough for
> > Villeneuve. He would have won his first run at Melbourne were it not for
> an
> > oil leak on his car.

> > > the record Hakkenin didnt do a damn bit better than Andretti for the
> rest
> > of
> > > that season.

> > Apart from the fact that he outqualified Senna on his first outing! I
> think
> > the guy did pretty good in a team going through it's death throes before
> > joining the Macca's

> >  Yea hes winning races now but thats 5 years later...hes had
> > > plenty of time to get used to the ins-and-outs of an F1 car.

> > No more or less than anyone else. Cars have changed pretty radically in
> the
> > last few years.

> >   Not to mention
> > > McLaren has gotten a car thats probably the best in F1 today.

> > Aint that the case with most champions these days

> > MS

Davi

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Davi » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Well Dario was beaten pretty soundly by Juan and also Alex, in Cart.

Dave

Rand

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Rand » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00

What about Villenuve, 1st year in F1, 2nd in points and in contention
until the last race, 2nd year, Champion.


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Stif

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Stif » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00

A tie in points is Soundly?

??artij

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by ??artij » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00

It proves to me only that CART racers have a really hard time in F1. The
fact that Villeneuve made a good impression was IMHO due to the
exceptionally fast Williams in his debut-year, the thorough pre-season
training he got (when compared to Zanardi and Andretti), but even more due
to the fact that he drove against Damon Hill.

Andretti was totally destroyed by SEnna, and so was Damon Hill. If Andretti
would have driven against someone of the caliber of Damon Hill, he would
have looked much better. Same goes to some extend for Zanardi.



> What about Villenuve, 1st year in F1, 2nd in points and in contention
> until the last race, 2nd year, Champion.


> >>Once again, an Indycar driver fails to >make the grade in F1

> >One year isnt near enough time to familirize yourself with an F1 car.
And for
> >the record Hakkenin didnt do a damn bit better than Andretti for the
rest of
> >that season.  Yea hes winning races now but thats 5 years later...hes
had
> >plenty of time to get used to the ins-and-outs of an F1 car.  Not to
mention
> >McLaren has gotten a car thats probably the best in F1 today.

> >Chris

> To email me remove the "u"s

Greg Cisk

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Greg Cisk » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Um... Schumacher won 2 championships in a row with Bennaton.
The team sucked as soon as he left. I was pretty much with you
on most of your points until this :-)

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Greg Cisk

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Greg Cisk » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00


> Andretti was totally destroyed by SEnna, and so was Damon Hill. If
Andretti
> would have driven against someone of the caliber of Damon Hill, he would
> have looked much better. Same goes to some extend for Zanardi.

Not on the podium he wouldn't have looked better. Andretti would still
have had to make good starts and Finnish races. He did Finnish in the
points in a couple of races though. I do wish he had stuck it out for
more than 3/4 of a year though. IMHO he bailed too fast.

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Davi

OT: F1: Rumor no longer, Zanardi officially out at Williams

by Davi » Mon, 24 Jan 2000 04:00:00



Lets see Juan 7 wins and Dario hmmmmmmm 3.  Also Dario does not possess the
car control the Juan has.

Dave


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