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OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

Dave Henri

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by Dave Henri » Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:30:18

  I've been watching the WRC coverage and figured out why drivers like Tommy
Makinen crash....They can't understand thier co-drivers...speaking some
foreign language :)
dave henrie
REDLINE42

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by REDLINE42 » Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:07:40

Bad, Dave, Bad!

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Tom Osbo

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by Tom Osbo » Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:22:18

I find having a co-driver very distracting...they should ban them.

Txl

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by Txl » Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:34:28

Listen to the co-driver of SAINZ, I think his name is Luis MOYA, he can say
more words in 1 seconds than you (or me) in 3...



Douglas Elliso

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by Douglas Elliso » Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:33:12

Thats the guy.... - this is what I hear when he's reading notes

blagalar blagalah tblehhhhh, ethla blagala rooooo, egatha neeee, blaghhethla
bolloga noooo

Say it very very quickly - you'll see ( or hear) what I mean

Doug

> Listen to the co-driver of SAINZ, I think his name is Luis MOYA, he can
say
> more words in 1 seconds than you (or me) in 3...



> >   I've been watching the WRC coverage and figured out why drivers like
> Tommy
> > Makinen crash....They can't understand thier co-drivers...speaking some
> > foreign language :)
> > dave henrie

MadDAW

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by MadDAW » Tue, 19 Mar 2002 01:59:24

I know I'd hate having a "wife" in the car when I'm racing. :)

MadDAWG

Tom Pabs

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by Tom Pabs » Tue, 19 Mar 2002 03:19:52

I'd only pay attention to two words out of the co-drivers mouth:

"DON'T CUT"

Everything else is nothing but "weather reports," where his guess is as good
as yours!  ....lol....

Anybody notice the CM is losing his touch...his "edge" that has made him a
great rally driver?  Maybe its just my imagination......but he does not look
"crisp" behind the wheel....to me, at least.

TP

PS:  Shows what I know.......I ran the RT demo for three weeks.....and kept
looking for the "Titans".....I thought it was some kind of big tree they had
in Russia?  .......lol......


> Listen to the co-driver of SAINZ, I think his name is Luis MOYA, he can
say
> more words in 1 seconds than you (or me) in 3...



> >   I've been watching the WRC coverage and figured out why drivers like
> Tommy
> > Makinen crash....They can't understand thier co-drivers...speaking some
> > foreign language :)
> > dave henrie

Peter Nilsso

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by Peter Nilsso » Tue, 19 Mar 2002 04:30:14

On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:59:24 -0500, "MadDAWG"


>I know I'd hate having a "wife" in the car when I'm racing. :)

>MadDAWG

Be sure to patch Rally Trophy to 1.01 then...  :-)
jason moy

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by jason moy » Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:09:45


> Anybody notice the CM is losing his touch...his "edge" that has made him a
> great rally driver?  Maybe its just my imagination......but he does not look
> "crisp" behind the wheel....to me, at least.

I kinda think if Colin lost his edge it would be a good thing.  He has
to be *the* most reckless rally driver in the modern era, at least
among those who have been moderately successful.

Also, I can't believe a guy wins one championship 7 years ago and
people still talk about him like he's some phenom.  In the meantime,
Makinen has won 4.  And which one is a household name...

Jason

ymenar

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by ymenar » Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:36:52


> blagalar blagalah tblehhhhh, ethla blagala rooooo, egatha neeee,
blaghhethla
> bolloga noooo

> Say it very very quickly - you'll see ( or hear) what I mean

Hehehe "It's funny because it's true".

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OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by Nic » Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:06:29

Tommi Makinen. Just like Mika Hakkinen, Damon Hill, Nigel Mansell and
a whole bunch of other drivers who have got to the absolute pinnacle
of their sport, he only did it because he was sat in the best car. The
Evo's Active Yaw Control and the entire design (making the car
unstable and letting the computer drive it, like new fighter planes)
made it easier to drive than anything else around. Everybody is
sliding through corners, struggling for traction, making precise
steering inputs, inches from slamming into the side of a house, when
he just points the car where he wants it to go and it does. Most motor
racing fans I know in England like Colin more than any other driver
(even Richard Burns) because when he is pushing hard, it looks so
amazing. Every other driver moderates pushing hard with getting to the
finish in one piece (as perfectly shown by Burns's championship last
year, only winning one round), except Colin, who goes for broke.
Michael Schumacher can do the same thing - drive absolutely on the
limit and be good enough to keep the car on the road if it gets a bit
loose. Nobody else in F1 (even JPM, yet) can do it, nobody else in WRC
can do it. That is why people like these drivers, they look like they
are on the ragged edge, and it is exciting to watch. Witness Makinen
sliding off on the water in the French Rally - nobody else who went
before him (and in the new order of the slowest go first) slid off,
but he managed it. Why? Because he doesn't have the skill to control a
car when it is sliding like that. Colin does. I like Colin for his
driving skills. I don't give a shit how many championships somebody
has won. Hakkinen = 2, Moss = 0. Moss was sooo much better than
Hakkinen it hurt writing that last sentence. Okay? Rant over.
Crai

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by Crai » Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:06:24

Have you noticed that shiiiiiiit is the same in any language :-),

Craig

Olav K. Malm

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by Olav K. Malm » Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:19:21


> Have you noticed that shiiiiiiit is the same in any language :-),

It was very entertaining to listen to Makinen's car when they found
out that their notes was a few turns too short. A nice tutorial of
finnish swearing :)

> Craig


> >   I've been watching the WRC coverage and figured out why drivers like
> Tommy
> > Makinen crash....They can't understand thier co-drivers...speaking some
> > foreign language :)
> > dave henrie

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Goy Larse

OT: World Rallye...I know why they crash

by Goy Larse » Wed, 20 Mar 2002 02:18:15


> Tommi Makinen. Just like Mika Hakkinen, Damon Hill, Nigel Mansell and
> a whole bunch of other drivers who have got to the absolute pinnacle
> of their sport, he only did it because he was sat in the best car. The
> Evo's Active Yaw Control and the entire design (making the car
> unstable and letting the computer drive it, like new fighter planes)
> made it easier to drive than anything else around. Everybody is
> sliding through corners, struggling for traction, making precise
> steering inputs, inches from slamming into the side of a house, when
> he just points the car where he wants it to go and it does. Most motor
> racing fans I know in England like Colin more than any other driver
> (even Richard Burns) because when he is pushing hard, it looks so
> amazing. Every other driver moderates pushing hard with getting to the
> finish in one piece (as perfectly shown by Burns's championship last
> year, only winning one round), except Colin, who goes for broke.
> Michael Schumacher can do the same thing - drive absolutely on the
> limit and be good enough to keep the car on the road if it gets a bit
> loose. Nobody else in F1 (even JPM, yet) can do it, nobody else in WRC
> can do it. That is why people like these drivers, they look like they
> are on the ragged edge, and it is exciting to watch. Witness Makinen
> sliding off on the water in the French Rally - nobody else who went
> before him (and in the new order of the slowest go first) slid off,
> but he managed it. Why? Because he doesn't have the skill to control a
> car when it is sliding like that. Colin does. I like Colin for his
> driving skills. I don't give a shit how many championships somebody
> has won. Hakkinen = 2, Moss = 0. Moss was sooo much better than
> Hakkinen it hurt writing that last sentence. Okay? Rant over.

I'm sorry, but I wholeheartedly disagree with you on Tommi Makinen

Mitsubishi was nothing before Tommi arrived, and they are nothing now,
even with guys like McCrae and Delecour they are nowhere to be seen in
the results list, furthermore, Tommi was head and shoulders above his
teammate, and even though most Rally "experts" will admit that
Mitsubishi tailored their car to suit Tommi, much like Ferrari does with
MS, it still takes quite a talent to claim 4 WC's

I do agree with you about Colin McCrae though, he's one of the few
drivers who make the WRC cars exciting to watch, 4WD <ptoi>, I have a
tape somewhere with Ari Vataanen sliding his (RWD) Opel Manta 400 around
a 4th gear bend on wet tarmac while waving to the camera crew, 1983 RAC
Rally or something, and his Escort days was something else.....can I
blame Max and Berine for ruining Rallying as well ?

No ? Dang, guess that was before Max joined the show, and we can't blame
*everything* on Bernie, although I'm sure he would have managed just
fine given the chance

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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